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Default Re: Salafi Publications and Allah's transcendence - 01-14-2006

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What makes a sufi? And if Allah isnt everywhere wouldnt you consider that restricting? Just something to think about.



In short we should all strive in understanding the Quran and sunnah correctly may Allah help us.

I don't know. I'm just following along. You know, so that I have the sense of belonging to the muslims.

I don't consider that restricting. If Allah is everywhere, then He's in the toilet bowl right now, or in the poop itself? God forbid.
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lol i knew youd say that, yet Allah is everywhere with His knowledge He is aware of everything happening, and yes even in the toilet! Otherwise, you could escape Allah in the toilet God Forbid, does that make sense?
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Well, which one is it. Is Allah's Knowledge Everywhere or Allah itself is everywhere?
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I never said Allah is everywhere in person :brother: I just reiterate what the salaf have always said, Allah is everywhere with His knowledge
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okay then...

that's exactly what i meant. Still Allah is above arsy, and He Knows Everthing.

wow...i never knew i was a salafi...
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Takumi - You say you are a sufi. What exactly makes you a sufi?
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Well. let me see.

A sufi: The one who loves Allah and His messenger.
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Well. let me see.
A sufi: The one who loves Allah and His messenger.
So you call your self a sufi only to seek purification and spirituality and not all the funny practises some sufi's practise such as celebrating the Prophet's (pbuh) bithday, singing poems that contain shirk, visiting graves to seek blessings from the dead, etc
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The following post by Ansar pretty much sums it up.

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So you call your self a sufi only to seek purification and spirituality
Aren't we all suppose to do this?

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and not all the funny practises some sufi's practise such as celebrating the Prophet's (pbuh) bithday, singing poems that contain shirk, visiting graves to seek blessings from the dead, etc
no, i don't do that,

by the way, can you elaborate further on the word "etc", what else do you assume or know that some sufis do?

i'd like to know what other people seem to know about what I am.
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no, i don't do that,
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I don't assume my brother these are things which the sufi's are well known for doing.

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Well, i wasn't clear about what you are following thats the reason i wanted to know when you refer to yourself as a sufi, what do you really mean? Some peole call themsevfs sufi's only to seek purification and spirituality and do not associate partners with Allah. Other's attach themselves with the title sufi and practise other then Islam (i.e not upon Quran and Sunnah). May Allah guide as all.
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They give sufis a bad name those people, just like some salafis gave the salaf a bad name. Or on a broader sense, muslims give Islam a bad name. Thank god! If Allah allows people to become muslim by mere looking at muslims without his divine guidance, I don't think I'd be muslim.

Some muslims are just too caught up with labels.

I wonder what will I call myself next? Asha'arite's maybe?
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No dont do that, I am sure you would agree with;

And strive hard in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving a is due to Him; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you an hardship in religion; the faith of your father Ibrahim; He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Apostle may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; therefore keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and hold fast by Allah; He is your Guardian; how excellent the Guardian and how excellent the Helper!

And if people keep asking, simple say you follow the Quran and Sunnah and the pious Companions of the Prophet :okay:
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Exactly. Why call ourselves anything other than Muslims?
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Exactly. Why call ourselves anything other than Muslims?
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The problem arises if a clearly deviant person says Im muslim just like brother Takumi (just an example brother) I totally understand that the name calling can be abit hard to understand at times, but in certain circumstances it is needed. We are all muslims, trying our best to follow the pious salaf (predesccors)
What about in this case?
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