Did Jesus of the Bible sin?

john316 · **Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

All right I think that this is the best place to put this question to muslims. I heard from one of you guys that Jesus in the Bible did sin. Now I suspect that you are probably alluding to the claim He made of Himself being God. Apart from that did he sin? Show me where in the Bible does it say that he sinned. Of course I know he makes some controversial statements but I believe he did say them for a reason.

john316 · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

I am waiting............

MustafaMc · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by john316

All right I think that this is the best place to put this question to muslims. I heard from one of you guys that Jesus in the Bible did sin. Now I suspect that you are probably alluding to the claim He made of Himself being God. Apart from that did he sin? Show me where in the Bible does it say that he sinned. Of course I know he makes some controversial statements but I believe he did say them for a reason.

In Islam, we believe that all of the prophets and messengers of Allah were sinless.

sin 1 a: an offense against religious or moral law b: an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible c: an often serious shortcoming : fault 2 a: transgression of the law of God b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God

One of the 10 Commandments "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy" Exodus 20:8-11, is emphasized as to its importance in the Judaic Law in Exodus 31:12-17, 35:1-9.

In the Bible Jesus (as) healed on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:13, Mark 3:3, Luke 6:8-10, John 14:4-6) and the Pharisees interpreted that Jesus broke the commandment about keeping the Sabbath holy and not doing any work.

anatolian · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

Salam john.I dont' know but I don't think that muslim might have said that Jesus sinned because of "making Himself being God*" because we muslims don't believe that he did such a thing..

For your question, Quran doen't say that Jesus did sin.But doesn't say that He did not also.

FatimaAsSideqah · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

Hello to John,

Jesus was sinless

The Bible Says,

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 (NAS)

The Bible tell us in the above passage and many other passages that Jesus Christ is sinless. He committed no sin, and so he never had to ask for forgiveness of sins. The Bible tells us that 'All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God' (Romans 3:23). All that is except Jesus Christ who is sinless.

The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is sinless?

He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. Sura Maryam 19:19 (Pickthal)

The Qur'an tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was given a sinless Son. A son who is faultless and perfect in the eyes of God, whose nature is sinless and who did no act of sin. God says He did this so that Jesus, the son of Mary, would be an example to all the nations of the world.

Peace be upon you

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

Skye Ephémérine · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

this post was by br. no name and I thought it was quite effective..

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"God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of
the SEED of David according to the flesh." (Romans, 1:3)

The Powerless "God" (Jesus) said: "I can of mine own self do nothing." (John, 5:30)

"God" Was Ignorant of the Time. Jesus said: "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the
angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." (Mark, 13:32)

"God" Was Ignorant of the Season: "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he (Jesus) was
hungry: and seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and
when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet." (Mark, 11:12-13)

"God" Learnt Through Experience: "Learned he obedience by the things which he sufered." (Hebrews, 5:8)

Spiritual Development of "God": "And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom." (Luke,
2:40)

Mental, Physical and Moral Development of "God": "And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor
with God and man." (Luke, 2:52)

"God" Was 12 Years Old When His Parents Took Him to Jerusalem: "Now his parents went to Jerusalem
every year at the feast of the passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the
custom of the feast." (Luke, 2:41-42)

"God" Was the Son of Joseph: "Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, we have found him, of whom
Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph" (John, 1:45)

Brothers and Brothers-in-law of "God": "And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their
synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty
works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and
Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence hath this man all these things? (Matthew,
13:54-56)

"God" was the fruit of the loins of David: "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with
an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne."
(Acts, 2:30)

The Ancestors of "God": "The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew,
1:1)

The Gender of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was
called Jesus." (Luke, 2:21)

How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God". Mary conceived Jesus like any other woman: "The days were
accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke, 2:6) which means that she went through all the normal
stages of pregnancy. Nor was her delivery any different from other expectant mothers: "And she being with
child cried, travelling in birth, and pained to be delivered." (Revelation, 12:2)

"God" Suckled The Paps of a Woman: "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the
company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou
hast sucked." (Luke, 11:27)

The Country of Origin of "God": "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king.
(Matthew, 2:1)

The Occupation of "God": "Jesus was a carpenter by trade." (Mark, 6:3), "and the son of a carpenter."
(Matthew, 13:55)

The Transport of "God": "Behold, thy king cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass." (Matthew, 21:5)

The Transport of "God": "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon." (John, 12:14)

The Wining and Dining of "God": "The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, behold a man
gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners." (Matthew, 11:9; Luke, 7:34)

The Poverty of "God": "And Jesus saith unto him, the foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but
the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Matthew, 8:20)

The Meagre Possessions of "God": "Shoes of Jesus" (Luke, 3:16), "Garments and coat of Jesus" (John, 19:23)

"God" Was a Devout Jew: "And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed
into a solitary place, and there prayed." (Mark, 1:35)

"God" Was a Loyal Subject and taxpayer: Jesus was a good citizen, he was loyal to Caesar. He said: "Render therefore unto
Caesar

The Devil Tempted "God" For 40 Days: "And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness. And he
was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan." (Mark, 1:12-13)

The Devil Tempted "God" Continuously: "And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from
him for a season." (Luke, 4:13)

Like the Sinners, "God" Was Tempted In All Things: "But (he) was in all points tempted like as we are, yet
without sin." (Hebrews, 4:15)

True God Cannot be Tempted With Evil: "God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man."
(James, 1:13)

Only The Ungodly Are Tempted With Evil: "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own
lust, and enticed." (James, 1:14)
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The Confession and Repentance of "God": before the beginning of his public ministry: "Jesus was baptized by
John the Baptist" (Matthew, 3:13), "which signified the confession of sins" (Matthew, 3:6), "and repentance
from sins (Matthew, 3:11).

"God" Did Not Come to Save the Sinners: "And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve
asked of him the parable. And he said unto them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of
God: but unto them that without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not
perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their
sins should be forgiven them." (Mark, 4:10-12)

THE RACIST "GOD"

"God" Was a Tribal Jew: "The lion of the tribe of Juda." (Revelation, 5:5)

"God" Came For The Jews Only: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the
house of Israel." (Matthew, 15:24)

Racial Discrimination of "God": "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the
way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel." (Matthew, 10:5-6)

According to "God", The Gentiles Are Dogs: "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs."
(matthew, 15:26)

The Kingdom of "God": And he (Jesus) shall reign over THE HOUSE OF JACOB for ever; and of his
kingdom there shall be no end." (Luke, 1:33)

The Titles of "God": "The king of the Jews" (Matthew, 2:2), "The king of Israel" (John, 1:49; 12:13)

A "GOD" UNLIKE THE GOD

A Hungry "God": "And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered."
(Matthew 4:2), "Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered." (Matthew, 21:18), "and on the
morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry." (Mark, 11:12)

A Thirsty "God": "(He) saith, I thirst." (John, 19:28)

A Sleepy "God": "He was asleep." (Matthew, 8:24), "He fell asleep" (Luke, 8:23), "And he was in the hinder
part of the ship, asleep on a pillow." (Mark, 4:38)

A Tired "God": Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well." (John, 4:6)

A Groaning "God": "He groaned in the spirit, and was troubled." (John, 11:33), "Jesus therefore again
groaning in himself cometh to the grave." (John, 11:38)

A Weeping "God": "Jesus wept " (John 11:35)

A Sorrowing "God": "And (he) began to be sorrowful and very heavy." (Matthew 26:37). "Then saith he unto
them, my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death." (Matthew, 26:38)

A Hysterical "God": "And (he) began to be soreamazed and to be very heavy." (Mark, 14:33)

A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him." (Luke, 22:43)
THE WARRING "GOD"

The Strong-Arm Method of "God": "And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein,
and them that bought." (Luke, 19:45). "And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: and
when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen;
and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables." (John, 2:13-15)

The "God" of War: Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but
a sword." (Matthew, 10:34)

The Sabre-Rattling "God": Jesus said: "And he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
(Luke, 22:36)

The "GOD" ON THE RUN

"God" Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry,
because the Jews sought to kill him." (John, 7:1)

"God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to
death. Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54)

"God" Has Shown a Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their
hand." (John, 10:39)

"God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the
temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." (John, 8:59)

THE CAPTURE OF "GOD"

A Friend Betrayed the Secret Hiding Place of "God": "And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place:
for Jesus off-times resorted thither with his disciples. Judas then, having received a band of man and officers
from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons." (John, 18:2-3)
"God" Was Arrested, Bound and Led Away: "Then the band and the captain and officers of the Jews took
Jesus, and bound him, and led him away." (John, 18:12-13)

"God" Was Humiliated: "And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote him. And when they had
blindfolded him, they struck him on the face." (Luke, 22:63-64). "Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted
him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands." (Matthew, 26:67)

"God" Was Defenseless: "One of the officers which stood by struck Jesus with the palm of his hand", he said:
"Why smitest thou me?" (John, 18:22-23)

"God" Was Condemned to Death: "And they all condemned him to be guilty of death." (Mark, 14:64). "They
answered and said, he is guilty of death." (Matthew, 26:66)
The Dumb and Docile "God": "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his
shearer, so opened he not his mouth." (Acts, 8:32)

THE END OF "GOD"

The Dying "God": "And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost." (Mark, 15:37)
The "God" That Was Supposed Dead and Defunct: "Christ died." (Romans, 5:6). "He was dead". (John,
19:33)

The Corpse of "God": "he (Joseph of Arimathaea) went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered." (Matthew, 27:58)

The Shroud of "God": "And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth." (Matthew,
27:59)

The Orbituary of The Late And Lamented "God": "Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified
God, saying, certainly this was a righteous man." (Luke, 23:47)

EPILOGUE

This post is for the sake of Muslim kids on this site who are in danger of being misled by clever threads

According to these self-appointed apostles of Christ, Jesus is God because: (i) "HE SHARED THE NATURE
OF GOD", and (ii) because "IN EVERY WAY HE IS LIKE GOD". But according to the quotations of the
Bible given above, we find that Jesus did neither SHARE THE NATURE OF GOD nor is he IN EVERY
WAY LIKE GOD. He is, therefore, definitely NOT God! The onus to prove that Jesus is God now rests with
these Christians. Either they must prove that Jesus is God, or they must admit that they are polytheists, (believers in
more than one God).

DESPITE ALL THEIR TRICKERY, THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD!!

These preachers in Christ, will never succeed in convincing the Muslims that Jesus was anything
other than a natural man and a Prophet of God, sent unto the house of Israel to bear the good news of the
coming of the KINGDOM OF GOD!

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john316 · 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RighteousLady

Hello to John,

Jesus was sinless

The Bible Says,

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 (NAS)

The Bible tell us in the above passage and many other passages that Jesus Christ is sinless. He committed no sin, and so he never had to ask for forgiveness of sins. The Bible tells us that 'All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God' (Romans 3:23). All that is except Jesus Christ who is sinless.

The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is sinless?

He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. Sura Maryam 19:19 (Pickthal)

The Qur'an tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was given a sinless Son. A son who is faultless and perfect in the eyes of God, whose nature is sinless and who did no act of sin. God says He did this so that Jesus, the son of Mary, would be an example to all the nations of the world.

Peace be upon you

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

Alright I'll answer you first and then PurestAmbrosa in the nicest way possible. You affirm that Jesus is sinless. Now here's a sticker. Dr. Zakir Naik on his website IRF.net uses a reference from the Bible to disprove Jesus' divinity.

Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

taken from
http://www.irf.net/irf/comparativereligion/index.htm

The rest of his arguments go totally against what Christians actually believe. Really biased. Sorry to say.

Question for you Sister Fatima

IS JESUS GOOD? YES OR NO

FatimaAsSideqah · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

^ Yes Jesus is good Prophet of Allah. He did duties very perfect to His Lord.

Here and in many other passages we see that Jesus Christ is Peace. He has peace and He is ready to give it to everyone who asks for it. The Qur'an mentions this Peace,

Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Sura Maryam 19:33 (Pickhal)

Here the Muslim's Holy Qur'an confirms what the Bible tells us, namely, that Jesus Christ does not ask for peace. He says that he was born with Peace. Therefore, He does not ask us to pray for peace on Him. No, on the contrary, He says he has peace. As we all know, only Allah Almighty has Peace.

Peace be upon you

Sister Fatima

john316 · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

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Originally Posted by RighteousLady

^ Yes Jesus is good Prophet of Allah. He did duties very perfect to His Lord.

Here and in many other passages we see that Jesus Christ is Peace. He has peace and He is ready to give it to everyone who asks for it. The Qur'an mentions this Peace,

Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Sura Maryam 19:33 (Pickhal)

Here the Muslim's Holy Qur'an confirms what the Bible tells us, namely, that Jesus Christ does not ask for peace. He says that he was born with Peace. Therefore, He does not ask us to pray for peace on Him. No, on the contrary, He says he has peace. As we all know, only Allah Almighty has Peace.

Peace be upon you

Sister Fatima

You said yes so if Jesus is good that makes him God.(Mathew 19:16-17)

**Abu Sayyad** · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

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Originally Posted by john316

You said yes so if Jesus is good that makes him God.(Mathew 19:16-17)

Your arguments are based more on desperation, than on anything solid.

FatimaAsSideqah · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

To John.

I think you are confused.

I did stated at this quote again to make clear.

Quote:

^ Yes Jesus is good Prophet of Allah. He did duties very perfect to His Lord.

I said Jesus is good person, not God. He is only Prophet of Allah.

Hope you will understand, Allah Knows.

Peace be upon you.

Sister Fatima

anatolian · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by RighteousLady

The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is sinless?

He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. Sura Maryam 19:19 (Pickthal)

The Qur'an tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was given a sinless Son. A son who is faultless and perfect in the eyes of God, whose nature is sinless and who did no act of sin. God says He did this so that Jesus, the son of Mary, would be an example to all the nations of the world.

Peace be upon you

Allah Hafiz
Sister Fatima

Salam sis.Some other english translations say "pure"in the place of "faultless" and my turkish translation says "clean".I don't understand the original Quran in arabic...So you say that Maryam:19 means that Isa aleyhissalam was sinless/didn't commit sin ever?

FatimaAsSideqah · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

As Salaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu

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Salam sis.Some other english translations say "pure"in the place of "faultless" and my turkish translation says "clean".I don't understand the original Quran in arabic...So you say that Maryam:19 means that Isa aleyhissalam was sinless/didn't commit sin ever?

Prophets of Allah, according to the Muslim faith, are people selected by Allah Himself to deliver His message to mankind. The Muslim belief that Prophets are sinless primarily relates to the fact that the Prophets of God delivered His message in its purest form. They did not add anything to it, on their own, and neither did they hold anything back from it. The Qur'an says that because Muhammad (pbuh) is a true Prophet of Allah, therefore, if this true Prophet falsely ascribes something to Allah, he shall then be punished like no other individual. The Qur'an says:

Had he invented lies concerning Us, We would have seized him by the right hand and severed his heart's vein; and no one from amongst you could have protected him (from Us). (Al-Haaqqah 69: 44 - 47)

The Qur'an also tells us that to supervise the unadulterated deliverance of the message, the prophets are closely observed by Allah. It says:

As for the Messengers whom He has chosen, He guards them from the front and from behind to make sure that they have delivered the messages of their Lord. (Al-Jinn 72: 27 - 28)

Besides this, Muslims also believe that because Allah Himself, on the basis of His all encompassing knowledge, selected these prophets for delivering His message and to become a model for their followers, therefore these Prophets must have been the best of mankind living in their particular times and societies. But this does not mean that the Prophets do not commit any mistakes. Mistake, as we know is not synonymous with sin. These Prophets may commit mistakes, which are corrected by Allah, but these mistakes are not sins. Even these mistakes are in the way of righteousness.

enough said on the matter..these are Prophets may peace be upon them all. I hope this clears up your questions/concerns.

Sister Fatima

anatolian · **Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? -** 02-03-2008

wa Aleykum Salam.No unfortunately it hasn't cleared up my question.I know that there isa beliefe within muslims that all Prophets were sinless but I am doubtful if this is a Quranic belief.My question is that does Quran 19:19 proves that Isa aleyhissalam didn't sin(not mistake)?

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john316 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 173 Reputation: 82 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Way of Life: Christian	Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 All right I think that this is the best place to put this question to muslims. I heard from one of you guys that Jesus in the Bible did sin. Now I suspect that you are probably alluding to the claim He made of Himself being God. Apart from that did he sin? Show me where in the Bible does it say that he sinned. Of course I know he makes some controversial statements but I believe he did say them for a reason.

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john316 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 173 Reputation: 82 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Way of Life: Christian	Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 I am waiting............

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anatolian LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 129 Reputation: 191 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 Salam john.I dont' know but I don't think that muslim might have said that Jesus sinned because of "making Himself being God*" because we muslims don't believe that he did such a thing.. For your question, Quran doen't say that Jesus did sin.But doesn't say that He did not also.

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FatimaAsSideqah Status: Offline Posts: 3,627 Reputation: 10328 Rep Power: 33 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Journey to Akhirah, Insha'Allah! Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 Hello to John, Jesus was sinless The Bible Says, He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 (NAS) The Bible tell us in the above passage and many other passages that Jesus Christ is sinless. He committed no sin, and so he never had to ask for forgiveness of sins. The Bible tells us that 'All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God' (Romans 3:23). All that is except Jesus Christ who is sinless. The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is sinless? He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son. Sura Maryam 19:19 (Pickthal) The Qur'an tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was given a sinless Son. A son who is faultless and perfect in the eyes of God, whose nature is sinless and who did no act of sin. God says He did this so that Jesus, the son of Mary, would be an example to all the nations of the world. Peace be upon you Allah Hafiz Sister Fatima __________________

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FatimaAsSideqah Status: Offline Posts: 3,627 Reputation: 10328 Rep Power: 33 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Journey to Akhirah, Insha'Allah! Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 ^ Yes Jesus is good Prophet of Allah. He did duties very perfect to His Lord. Here and in many other passages we see that Jesus Christ is Peace. He has peace and He is ready to give it to everyone who asks for it. The Qur'an mentions this Peace, Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! Sura Maryam 19:33 (Pickhal) Here the Muslim's Holy Qur'an confirms what the Bible tells us, namely, that Jesus Christ does not ask for peace. He says that he was born with Peace. Therefore, He does not ask us to pray for peace on Him. No, on the contrary, He says he has peace. As we all know, only Allah Almighty has Peace. Peace be upon you Sister Fatima __________________

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anatolian LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 129 Reputation: 191 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Did Jesus of the Bible sin? - 02-03-2008 wa Aleykum Salam.No unfortunately it hasn't cleared up my question.I know that there isa beliefe within muslims that all Prophets were sinless but I am doubtful if this is a Quranic belief.My question is that does Quran 19:19 proves that Isa aleyhissalam didn't sin(not mistake)?

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