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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Well, life wouldn't exactly be 'realistic' without 'mundane trials', will it?
__________________Anyway, in Islam, we believe all hardships, no matter how small, expiate a persons sins, so that paper cut and spider bit might have just wiped out a couple of sins committed a few days ago... ![]() |
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| LI Addict Status: Offline Posts: 5,132 Reputation: 7801 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,378 Reputation: 41985 Rep Power: 84 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | People are trialled through ease and hardship. Your children, family and wealth are a trust from Allah which you, and every other will be questioned about, and everyone is trialled in their own way.
__________________Each person will be judged by the Most Just,the same way they were born, lived and died alone, they will be ressurected alone. Each step of your life is a trial, and every breath you have in life is a chance for you to redeem yourself. But every soul has a time in which it will taste death, and then there will be no turning back. What you had earned during this passing abode will be what will be brought forth along with you on the Day of Recompense. No-one will be dealt with unjustly, so whatever you face in life - Allah is aware of it. If you were forced or coerced into something evil - then He is the Knowing, Aware of that, and He will not hold you responsible for that, but doing evil out of choice will be a source of regret for the evildoer. Each person will be judged independently, their own life will be what they will be judged for, not anothers. Therefore each has his/her own responsibility, and each can only succeed by obedience to Allah and His Messenger. His slave & Messenger calls to what is good, and calls away from evil. He unites mankind on what they differed, by the will of Allah. He calls them to be sincere to God, and to establish the prayer and to give in charity. He calls them to upholding the ties of the family, and to help the needy. He is known as the most truthful (Al-Ameen) by even those who opposed him, because he was brought up and lived among them. He warned us of the consequences of our actions and deeds in this life, and that we are responsible for them. And he gave glad tidings of reward and mercy to those who believed and did good for the pleasure of their Lord, while warning of a severe punishment in the life to come, for those who rejected the Promise of their Lord. |
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But, that's the way it goes. The example I gave was to illustrate that you can do everything in your power to succeed but one time you will fail. Is that to purely make you suffer? No. It is to teach you something - which is individual for every person who goes through that test. Quote:
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If we are not tested then how do we know where we stand? Also, who is to say that SID syndrome is just to test the parents of that child? What if you or I are also being tested. That's the way I approach it at least. As for the topic; I believe someone stated it before: the question could also be phrased as why not just plunk us all in heaven or hell. It is simple; we as humans have to first help them. God will aid us (this is because this life is a test for US!) NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO My website Quote:
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| "Heretic" i reckon.. Status: Offline Posts: 730 Reputation: 4284 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tukwila, WA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
i disagree with the premise that Allah[Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala] has not done everything in HIS power to save us. HE DID send thousands upon thousands of Prophets and and hundreds of Messengers to warn, educate and save mankind. so why do we blame HIM when it is us that refuse to obey HIM? we have the free will to disobey and we appear to take full advantage of it, so why whine about the consequences UNLESS you do YOUR PART by returning to Allah[Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala] and accepting the guidance the HE provided via HIS Messenger, Muhammad ibn Abdullah [Salla Allahu Alayhe Wa Salaam]? regarding items such as the tsunami, i remember a lecture by Mufti Ismail ibn Musa Menk. in it he presented the the plight of those who were caught in sin at the moment of the disaster and the martyrdom of those who were in Ibadah at the same moment. also in the second volume of the Ma'ariful Qur'an we are told (although the ayat escapes me at the moment) that we will die as we have lived So if you have Ikhlas and Sabr and perform all of your responsibilities that Allah [Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala] will take you upon that state. if you shirk your responsibilities and are careless with your Ibadah, you have no such promise. we tend to compare INFINITY in the Akhira with a few miserable years in the dunya! we tend to deny that Allah [Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala] will judge us or that HE even hast the RIGHT to judge us, yet we have no worries about judging HIM! Nowoothu Billah! Quote:
it is YOU that claims the victim of SIDS has been somehow shortchanged or that Allah [Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala] is somehow unfair. all of your misconceptions are based upon your denial of Allah[Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala]! La Ilaha Ilah Allah, Muhammadur Rasulullah could change all of that, but we have no power to convince you of that. you have to change yourself first...
Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html | ||
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,378 Reputation: 41985 Rep Power: 84 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
woahh! i'm shocked bro | |
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| Fighting4Emaan Status: Offline Posts: 16,004 Reputation: 48512 Rep Power: 93 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fighting4Emaan Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | ok lets step back for a second
__________________God created earth likewise he has the ability to create more. he understands every emotion and is all just. he has granted a respite till the day of judgement to dwell in freedom and do good. The suffering which occurs in between will be recompensed at the end of the respite. whats hard to understand? people just need to get their heads round a "day of judgement" and its all good. |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 393 Reputation: 1077 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NYC Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
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| &we drive. Status: Offline Posts: 1,382 Reputation: 9543 Rep Power: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle East Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
In islam, any child that dies before reaching puberty goes straight to heaven. In the situation being described, the people being tested are the parents. "With regard to where the children who have died are – are they in the seventh heaven with Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) or in their graves? What has been narrated concerning that is the hadeeth of Samurah ibn Jundub (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) often used to say to his companions: “Has anyone among you seen a dream?” and whoever Allaah willed would tell him what he had seen. One day he said: “Last night two people came to me and made me get up, and they said to me: ‘Let’s go.’ So I set off with them…” He mentioned things that he had seen, then he said: “We set off, and we came to a verdant garden, in which were all the colours of spring, where there was a man who was so tall that I could hardly see his head in the sky. Around the man was the largest number of children I had ever seen…” Then among things that the two angels explained to him was: “As for the tall man who was in the garden, that was Ibraaheem. As for the children who were around him, these are all the children who died in a state of fitrah.” One of the Muslims said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what about the children of the mushrikeen?” He said: “And the children of the mushrikeen.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7047). This hadeeth indicates that whoever dies before reaching the age of puberty is in Paradise under the care of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him), not that he is in the seventh heaven. " edit- source http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=71175&ln=eng a photographer, check out my work. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, La Illaha Ila Allah (go on, make some takbeer! it's the first 10 days of the month of Dhul Hijjah!) | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 393 Reputation: 1077 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NYC Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
Why is not this soul tested at later stages of life. Allowed to grow and learn through other tests? Has that question been addressed? Thanks. | |
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| SOLO Status: Offline Posts: 447 Reputation: 2593 Rep Power: 8 Join Date: Apr 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed | Quote:
You are on this world so you could be tested. To separate the good from the evil, the oppressors from the oppressed, the just from the unjust, and so forth. And what do you think the Day of Judgment is for? Allah if He Willed could truly make us all believers, but we Humans are being tested, and we will have to answer for the atrocities which he committed and reward for the suffering we endured with patience. Those who suffer in this world, fear Allah, obey Allah, put their trust in Allah and those who are patient are the ones which will enter paradise. Suffering, just like happiness is part of the test. Will you disbelieve because calamity touched you, or will you disbelieve because your riches occupy your mind 24/7. A true believer, will believe in Allah while suffering from a disease, occupation, torture, poverty, and he/she will put their trust in Allah, for Allah sees what we do. So fear not, the ultimate Judge is Allah, and He is the Best of Judges. Suffering is just part of the test, hold-fast, for Allah doesn’t forsake those who believe in HIM with clear certainty. I am from Somalia, and you can’t possibly talk to me about suffering, and never ending war, poverty, chaos, and occupation. Who listens to the cries of the thousands of mothers who saw their children dying, their daughters raped, their husbands killed, their fathers tortured other than Allah? Who listens to the cries of the thousands of orphans who walk bare feet, half-dressed on the blood-stained hot cracked roads of Mogadishu with empty bellies other than Allah? Who listens to the cries of fathers, who watch as their daughters being brutally raped and their wives dying in their arms other than Allah? Do not despair of Allah’s Mercy Salaaam | |
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| SOLO Status: Offline Posts: 447 Reputation: 2593 Rep Power: 8 Join Date: Apr 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed | Quote:
Don't you know that a child goes straight to Heaven? Allah knows what is best for His Slaves. Allah tests us in all ages, old and young will die. | |
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| &we drive. Status: Offline Posts: 1,382 Reputation: 9543 Rep Power: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle East Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
a photographer, check out my work. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, La Illaha Ila Allah (go on, make some takbeer! it's the first 10 days of the month of Dhul Hijjah!) | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 393 Reputation: 1077 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NYC Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | This is a tricky question for me to get across. The child isn't developed? Why didn't it get a chance to develo |