lol barney i think creation may have shrunk too, ie maybe tree's dont grow as larger and taller as they use to. Fig leafs may not be as big as they use to be, cheeseburgers didnt exist and im sure the cows were bigger too


thanks for the laugh

1 cubit = 45.72 centimetres

60 cubits = 27.43200 metres

that's what? 90 feet?

^ 27.43200 meters = 90 feet

P.S. Google is there for a reason, make use of it

I thought Paradise was the Eden area? Within a stones throw of the Euphrates or similar? Or is that just in the bible?

I was out the back garden the other night Imagining just how big a 90 foot guy would be, its pretty impressive.
His Fists would be the size of my car, his head the size of a fully grown elephant, his teeth like keyboards...ROCK!
Then I was imagining the world he lived in. Trees like skyscrapers, Cats the size of killer whales. its amazing that 6000 years ago the earth must have been awesome!

In Islam, there isn't any mention of Adam being present 6000years ago, although it may say this in the Bible - it isn't mentioned in our texts. Therefore it may have been much longer than this since his time.

And in regard to the garden of Eden, no - that was in the heavens above - which are part of the unseen. This is why Adam and Hawwa [Eve] - came to the earth after the trial they faced, when Allah forgave them.


And Allah knows best.

IF you read the hadiths carefully, they ONLY refer to the size in heaven. No where in there do they say that his earthly body as so big. Hence my guess that it is a metaphor or something. In another hadith the Prophet( pbuh) said that there was this tree in heaven so big that would take days for the rider of a horse to even pass.

Other hadiths describe some things in heaven being really big. Following what Qatada said about making sure that the phrase is already used before considering it a metaphor, I think that these instances of giantness serve to communicate the grandeur of humans and their rewards in heaven.

Adam a.s. was created 60 cubits, he didn't shrink to a tiny man when he fell on earth. There is no "metaphor" in here bro. Read bottleneck theory, it states when a species inbreed then over time it will shrink in size.





Barney, you ever played Supermario 3? remember the levels in "giant land".

I don't see why you are so surprised about this fact. Look at mother nature, it gives enough proof of what was in the past to know better. We are afraid of dinosaurs and how big they were compared to us, well to early humans they could very much have been their domestic animals.

Take a look at this giant trees, we are insects compared to these but they fit quite well in a world where humans are 90 feet tall.

http://www.nzbirding.co.nz/uploads/6...E_BUTTRESS.jpg

http://copypast.ru/foto2/00356/giant_trees_02.jpg
http://www.about-sanfranciscoca.com/...ge_00025_1.jpg
http://www.hotel-tilawa.com/costa-ri...giant_tree.jpg

http://www.wildernesscommittee.org/c...aton_creek.jpg
3 to 4 metres in diameter towering 80 to 95 meters high--taller than 25-storey-high buildings


http://www.wildernesscommittee.org/c...mple_giant.jpg
11.5 feet diameter and 300 feet tall

I wonder why noone has ever found a human skeleton over 9ft tall, or indeed any at all from the time of the dinosaurs.

^ I wonder why people rely on physical evidence.

We know the issue is a matter of belief anyways, so even if it isn't proven - we accept it like everything else.


And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding. [Qur'an 3:7]

Is it even possible for a humanlike being to be that tall and heavy? Can a human body increased in size to such an extent work properly, stand straight etc? Insects bigger than a couple of inches wouldn't be able to support the weight of their body for instance.

It would be possible, but indeed the cows and trees and evrything would need to be the same or similar pro-rata. Otherwise a daily intake would be a whole herd of cows or goats, and its not sustainable.

If Adam was only 90ft in heaven and shrank down when he hit earth, despite the original book saying it was on earth, then theres no problem. Other than what the jimminy is the point of all that? Big guy shrinking down along with everything else and leaving no evidence behind at all.
Its a high hoop, but it's jumpable.

Exactly, including insects, which is impossible due to their body construction.

I don't know, I'm not sure a human body that size could function properly, the human body is adapted to a height up to 2/2,5 metres. Unless Adam was significantly different than the modern day human, I don't think he was able to live normally and survive. Imagine a brain 10 times bigger than ours; if nothing else it would function more slowly. Or the kidneys..
Not to mention the environmental challenges a body that size would have to face. for instance, if Adam had raised his ahnd, it would have taken over 2 seconds to return to its original position, taking into account that gravity was teh same back then.

I'm sorry, I didn't know you considered urself as God! Excuse my ignorance!