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| nusrat fanatic Status: Offline Posts: 6,246 Reputation: 27908 Rep Power: 56 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Way of Life: Agnostic | yep, but i get asked that a lot!
__________________ each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles question authority |
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| SOLO Status: Offline Posts: 337 Reputation: 1890 Rep Power: 5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Earth Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | It is a wonderful compliment.
__________________Hope you come around….. Wahib ibn al-Ward said: "Do not insult Satan explicitly whereas you take him clandestinely as a friend." |
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| nusrat fanatic Status: Offline Posts: 6,246 Reputation: 27908 Rep Power: 56 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Way of Life: Agnostic | that's just how i take it.
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| Protect the Muslims Status: Offline Posts: 1,908 Reputation: 8080 Rep Power: 28 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | "Get a job?" Sorry. Couldn't resist popping up that joke. -------------------------------------------------- If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal and if they can't stop you, you become something else entirely; A Legend |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,509 Reputation: 22970 Rep Power: 53 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Why don't you ask them what is stopping them from stripping off naked right at that moment, after all, it works for these tribes, right, so why don't they follow along? ![]() |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 4,778 Reputation: 6505 Rep Power: 25 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | I think the point would be that there isn't a natural state of shame to human nakedness. It is culturally learned behavior.
__________________However, I do agree that the reason a people would feel shame at their own nakedness would be because they are taught to be ashamed, whether one wants to attribute that to God or society.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
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| Y R U looking here? Status: Offline Posts: 6,730 Reputation: 39643 Rep Power: 68 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Where ever I go, there I am, and I go often.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I'll put the 'reversion to our unshamed state' in the suggestion box and see how everyone turns out on monday.. I am sure it will prove interesting...
__________________ For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary. Vous n'arriverez pas à me berner si facilement ! ![]() |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,713 Reputation: 21065 Rep Power: 47 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
The power of the influence of those around an individual from childhood is amazing. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| I am nothing Status: Offline Posts: 4,386 Reputation: 16878 Rep Power: 47 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Treat every non muslim like a potential muslim :) Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
However, in civilised societies the learned response to nudity is sexual desire. Not many would dispute that. Being in regions where this response is the norm, calls for protection of oneself which in Islam is through observing hijab. So, one may ask would hijab be needed where nudity is not relative to sexual desire? The answer is yes! But why? The answer is in the Quran. As Allah says, ‘....Surely he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you see them not..." (Quran-7:27) The verse here refers to the jinn community, who inhabit the whole earth. Nakedness is appreciated by the shayateen. This is why a muslim must recite, 'Bismillah' before getting undressed. *Anas (ra) reports from Rasulullah (SAW) that when a person undresses for the purpose of relieving himself, or bathing or having relations with his/her spouse, the shaytaan interfere and plays with his/her private parts. If he/she says 'Bismillah' before taking off the clothes, then this serves as a barrier and safety from the shayateen and jinns.* By commanding us to clothe ourselves Allah isn't condemming nudity, but protecting us from what He knows is harmful to us. Whether that be peoples' response to nudity, the shayateens interference, or anything else, a muslim knows that Allah has ordained for us, only that is beneficial for us. wa alaikum asalam wr wb. Jannah is only two steps away. Put one foot on your nafs and the other one will take you to Jannah. InshaAllah. Important plz read: May Allah grant Muslimah_Sis & her son, success in this world and the Akhirah. Ameen. lololol JazakAllah khair & same to you | |
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Online Posts: 3,130 Reputation: 16107 Rep Power: 46 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Leicester Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Reason why it works in that tribe is because EVERYONE is doing it. It's essentially conformity - everyone is doing it, no shame in it thus it is normal and society is fine. Though the argument in question is sort of weird; you're comparing two extremes (fully clothed aka hijab and nek-ed) and saying if one exists the other shouldn't (effectively). Perhaps a better argument would be well if society can work fine without clothing why should we wear clothes (as opposed to why wear the hijab, which is the exact polar opposite of bein nek-ed) LI user page another new article My website Quote:
''If you only have love for your own race. You only leave space to discriminate. When you discriminate, it only generates hate. And when ya hate, ya bound to get irate'' | |
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