^ Yup.... lol.

The scientific community claim to have evidence of a world evolving over millions of years with fossils and archaeological evidence for each stage of their theories.

True Christians claim the earth is only about 4500 years old.

Islam began to take hold from about AD615 . What is the Islamic perspective of the age of the earth and plant life and animal life .

^ Islaam was here since forever lol

It is beyond comprehsion of the Atheists.These are people who cannot appreciate enen this much that "design is not possible without a designer".
So atheists shoud not bother about islam.

Human logic and common sense play a role...but it boils down to faith. What seems logical to one person is not necessarily logical to another.

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you take any aspect of life, any problem any issue - the way it is handled in ISLAM it is the only way - the best thing is patience. and moreover how can one live without being near to HIS CREATOR, HIS MAINTAINER. thats ISLAM I suppose . the joy the support the energy that one gains after prostrating - this can sound good to the one who knows HIM. to the one who does not know HIM it is again an issue of debate

I think human logic and common sense only plays a part in finding the religion, not following it. (It has been said by a speaker, that when you look at most of the passages in the Qur'an which call to logic, they speak to the disbelievers)

Faith is faith, but where we place our faith is not based on faith but should be on logic and reason.

Once, due to reason, we are sure that a guide is right, we put our faith in that guide. Sort of like, I do my research on which bus route will take me to a place, after all my research I conclude that bus number 21 will take me, I then due to this research of reason, put my faith on the driver, because I dont know the route I dont know which particular road will take me, but through my reasearch in the routes before, I have faith this bus will take me to the right place.

The fossils don't explain macro evolution, although they do explain where animals died through history. Scientists are attempting to link them animals to make them all part of one big family, however - macro evolution can't be tested for certainty, but i don't have enough time to go into detail sorry.


I'll link you to a good link for more details (by an ex atheist who became muslim):

http://seemyparadigm.webs.com


hope you check it out and enjoy it.




We believe Islam [submission to God] has been the religion and guidance sent to all the Prophets and Messengers from God to mankind. Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the final Messenger, after a chain of many Messengers such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus son of Mary etc. (peace be upon them all.)


In regard to the earths age, there is no mention of it in our texts. Therefore it does not contradict our faith even if the world is over 1 million years old etc.


And Allah knows best.




Peace.

Al Habeshi
WHAT IN THE NAME OF FORTUNE IS THIS ALL ABOUT
We got pastors who pee sitting down, we got the president of the united states who probably pees sitting down. We got a bunch of preachers, we got leaders who don't stand up and piss against the wall like a man! And am going to tell ya something, that's what's wrong with America....

It's cos the editors of the NIV pee sitting down, the editors of the NKJV all pee sitting down, am gonna tell you something, I'm not gonna pee sitting down...

Preacher

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I suppose most religions consider themselves the "true" religion. If the faithful didn't believe it to be the true religion they wouldn't be faithful.

This quote says it all , not many people follow more than one religion and there are many
hundreds / thousands of different religions all relying on the divine word of their particular
holy manual or revered parchments written by a divine being , so there must thousands of divine beings up there competing for their market share on earth just like a bunch of big TV stations carving up an audience survey.

So how does a discerning TV viewer figure out which TV sation is the only truthful one ..

So asadxyz regardless who the designer was are you agreeing with our christian brothers who have aged the planet earth at 4500 years of age

Greetings and peace be with you ozdload, welcome to the forum

Either God the creator of the universe exists fully and totally, or there is no God at all.

There is no absolute proof that God exists. If there were the chances are we would all see this proof in the same way and there would be just one religion.

The number of religions does not dictate the number of Gods. Despite all the problems mankind creates. The same God created people who are atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindu and all manner of religions. The same God hears all our prayers, this should make us all brothers and sisters together despite all our differences.

In the spirit of searching for a loving and merciful God.

Eric

^Couldn't have summed it up better

Greetings,

well put it this way.. if you have an instruction manual that tells you about the desiger, the product, how to fix problems, how to stop them arising.. it covers everything completely and answers all your questions, you'd follow that one compared to that which only tells you a bit about the designer, a few 'do's and don'ts', a few basic instructions that don't really help you at all.

Well only Islam fully contains intructions needed for mankind to deal with every aspect of life - from, birth, death, marriage, divorce, business, social/spiritual/physical/sexual matters and so on. These instructions are beneficial not only to the individual or society but also to the welfare of our planet.

Look at the hindu practice of cremating bodies. Burning one body requires 880lbs of wood. According to some estimates funeral pyres strip the country of more than 50 million trees annually. The left-over burned body parts are dumped into rivers adding toxicity to already polluted water; not forgetting the carbon dioxide that released into the atmosphere from burning funeral pyres.

Now look at the instructions upon the death of a muslim - Read funeral rites and bury body wrapped in sheet of cotton cloth and you're done. Both naturally disintegrate causing no harm to the environment. How economical and environmentally friendly is that?

That was just a small example.. but speaks volumes to those who listen. I follow Islam and claim it to be the true religion because it's logical in all matters, it's guidence doesn't leave one wondering, it's fair in it's punishments, it instructs how to avoid harm at all levels in all aspects of life and gives instructions on how to live in harmony with ppl of other faiths, it's the be all and end all. The complete instruction manual from the Creator. Why would I not favour it over some corrupt old instructions that cannot help me in any way at all?



Peace.