I'll make a note of it.

What's the customary way of showing platonic love in Islam?


Peace be with you,


Faysal

We don't show "love" to the opposite sex, except with respect in modesty. We dont hug and kiss or anything. Talking with dignity and respect is better than anything.

Peace.

I hope I've shown nothing less than dignity and respect. To be sure, I wouldn't actually run up and hug and kiss a woman. I suppose I could have chosen other words.





Faysal

I wasnt implying that, you just asked for a better way. So I gave you one, that's all

there are many more options than the 2 above. you can read the qur'an and think it's really kinda cool how god is always drawing your attention to his creation as a way of showing that he works through nature.
personally, i see no reason to try to use the qur'an as a science text book and i don't think that was the purpose.

Perfectly fine. When you read a passage about the revolutions of celestial bodies. Do you think "it's really cool how god could have made the universe like that" or "it's really cool how this hidden knowledge is revealed to us by god". Would you then tell your friends about the cool passage in the book as a useful metaphor for a deism, or would you say that this passage could not be conceived by mortals, and thus we have proof of the "hand of god"

Is it revealed truth, or not?

I agree.

I don't know, it isn't the sort of question that crossed my mind.. for me it was, is there a God, YES/NO, once I have determined which of the two, it was, I moved on to which religion.. I didn't stick with any ideologies (Buddhism, Shintoism, Janism etc) you get the pic.. I stuck with Abrahamic faiths, and out of that, it was down to Judaism or Islam, and Islam made the most sense.. Yes there was a time in my life when I didn't pray/fast or believed in anything, I believe it is natural for every human to question...

It was more active reading on my part than the scientific miracles, although when you read them and they make sense, it is an added bonus...

It was more a case of where was the author addressing me.. and this is more a personal experience, every time I had a question, not two or three days later it was answered therein in the Quran... I can't say it will work out that way for you... it is an inside willingness to do something...

for instance when I decided to study science, I took the appropriate steps, find best programs, best schools, where I could personally grow, and what suited me.. I know science doesn't change from one institution to the next.. it was a matter of where best I can cultivate my talents.... It was in me to be who I am today.. it was just a matter of finding which route suited me best... I had to weed out what didn't work in order that I may achieve what does work...




Well the fact that you narrowed it down to two options, is sort of a cul de sac?



I don't think it is a matter of saving anyone really or converting the infidels.. I mean has that ever worked? it is a matter of your own heart, You have to want it.. read my very first reply on this very post.. You can have a million glossy books, with a bazillion endorsement from heavy weights but it simply doesn't work for you... Not everyone can be Muslim.. It is something you have to want to attain... for every opinion you've out there, there is one contradicting it.. even in science, you've multiple theories competing with each other.. You personally have to sort and intellectualize through it.... You can't force your own track of thoughts on someone, any more than they can impose theirs on you... The forum really is a prime example of that? How many times do atheists post talk origins, to which I post a counter rebuttal by another leading scientist of the impossibilities that lie therein? The best most people do when cornered is go for the credibility of someone.. but for the most part it really doesn't touch the work.. if you don't know enough science to discuss the work, then one theory is as good as the next.. wouldn't you say?

Of course.. I'd just like it to be colored a little differently.. but I can't impose that either.. to be honest, it is the under lying tone patronage and condescension that irks me... not so much what you do or don't believe!

So? it is certainly a part of the Quran.. some people focus on the allegory, some focus on the poetry, some focus on the numerology..some focus on the arrangement of suras, some focus on the 'mutaqati3at' (the suras that start with only a few letters) that in an of itself has loan rise to a thousand theory, personally, I think they will have missed the point entirely, but Allah SWT has stated 'its wonders never cease' and it is certainly an art all its own to go on trying to decode the centuries old book!



alrighty then.. thank you for the clarification...
I still get a depressing feeling though around atheists.. it is my own psychology, and I am very set in my ways.. I can't unlearn some habits/feelings now, considering they are ingrained there from impressions I have gathered in my experience..

all the best

cheers

Quran says everything was created in pairs like even night and day, that would include everything including reproduction sexual and asexual among other thing. It is not talking about genders specifically.

First, similarity doesn't make Quran wrong. It is still correct, it is your presumption that if there is similarity than it must be copied. Interestingly, it happened to copy the correct one out of all the other creation myths around at that time.

Second, those myths are not same other than some water similarity. Quran says everything of life we see God created out of them water. Neither of those mention creation of the celestial bodies out of smoke and dust.

I was looking at all the scientific Miracles that were predicted in the Quran and Bible.

Can anyone use these books to find the next major scientific Discovery?

Dont get depressed around us Skye! We can do some singing if ya like to cheer you up?

i am not qualified to know what is revealed truth or not! but yeah, i do think, "yeah, isn't that cool how god made....." both when i read these passages as well as when i look at a tiny flower in the desert.
personally, i think it is a mistake to try to use these things in the qur'an as scientific proof and only opens up the way for a lot of silly arguments. also, i would never try to convince anybody about anything.
since one reason i came to believe in god is by learning about and observing nature, i think it's cool that god directs your attention to various creations and refers to them as signs of his creation. i believe that god works through nature.
but religion isn't science and shouldn't be expected to be or claimed to be.

Sure one can get the direction as muslim scientist once did before. For example, one can infer our universe is essentially flat from the descriptions in Quran. There could be numerous other things. But I believe we are reaching at the end of our discovery spectrum, there won't be any major new discoveries in physics, but mainly improvement in existing technologies. One major that might come could be teleportations or reducing 3D space travel with wormhole/spacewraps if our civilization doesn't collapse within 500 years.

However for specific things, there are prophecies of events that will take place near the end of our world, but no point in mentioning them now your not gonna believe them, people will know when they will happen.

^^^ there is actually one egyptian scientist working on a project to see what it is in sweat that can cure elevated intraocular pressure progressing to blindness as was the case of Jacob when he lost Joseph..
You'll recall that he was cured of his blindness when he held Joseph's shirt to his face.. I'll try to find that article for you..

I am sure it will prove interesting insha'Allah



Addendum: article found
personal note: I don't know how accurate these results are, I can't find the original article from Ar'Raya Qatar and not sure if it were published in any medical journal foreign or domestic.. I just wanted to share it....
http://ajmalbeig.addr.com/isl_medicine.htm

Yes
A time is coming when there will be very severe earthquakes and the world will be destroyed .

Yes, I got that night and day part. I'm sure you realize I was simply responding to the first post. But you've raised something I didn't touch, if it's not talking about genders, what about the genderless creatures? What's the other half?

You must explain your statement for me. If everything was created like night and day, in pairs, why does it not include gender?


By no means did I assert that the similarity made it wrong, my statement that it was simply not the first kid on the block to say that we all came from water. The Babylonians thought the same and some native Americans thought the same. Whether they had divine revelation too, I can't say. But then again, it's not my problem. Islam allows for other civilizations to have have their own prophets.