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crayon · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

Are you kidding me? How does that even make sense?

So in your opinion nuns wear their habit to show off their modesty, and therefore are immodest?

------ · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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showing off is vain

vanity is immodest

ergo, veiling is immodest

QED

in simple english?

Nerd · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

^ Showing off is a kind of vanity and vanity is immodest, if you are wearing to the hijab to show off your modesty that makes it vain: making it immodest

crayon · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

We do not wear hijab to show off our modesty, we wear our hijab to be modest.

------ · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

^ That don't make sense @ Nerd. Lemme make it clear for you - women cover up because they belong to a man (their hubby or future to be) - if you had something really precious, you wudnt want people to share it with you, would u? The same way women keep themselves covered up for that one person...

I dunno whether i explained it well.... Hmm...

Fighting4Iman · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Nerd

if wearing the Hijab is a way of showing to the world how modest you are.

showing off is vain

vanity is immodest

ergo, veiling is immodest

QED

if veiling is immodest the opposite must be modest to show everything?

what a sick-O

**Al Habeshi** · 10:33 AM

Aww what happend to my post...opps.

Anyhow, this is what it said kinda,

Hijab linguistic is not the same, to some extent as the technical term. Hijab may mean screen and so forth, check surah Maryam when Mary, peace be upon him, took a screen, I think ayah 17. Now, your question should be, why is the male hijab different to the female.

As for the Immortal and modesty thing I think he is right, but he is generalising, for example, salah is obligatory, but if one does it to show off, then it can have the opposite effect! Similarly hijab is obligatory, but if someone wears it to show off that they are supposedly modest they it may be wrong?

But the whole point is that this is not the general reason, it is not the religious reason, noone should wear hijab to SHOW OFF their modesty, they may wear it to show that they try to be modest, or they wear it because they believe God has told them to.

Nerd · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by crayon

We do not wear hijab to show off our modesty, we wear our hijab to be modest.

But isn't rather to submit to the command of Allah

Nerd · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Al Habeshi

As for the Immortal and modesty thing I think he is right, but he is generalising, for example, salah is obligatory, but if one does it to show off, then it can have the opposite effect! Similarly hijab is obligatory, but if someone wears it to show off that they are supposedly modest they it may be wrong?

But the whole point is that this is not the general reason, it is not the religious reason, noone should wear hijab to SHOW OFF their modesty, they may wear it to show that they try to be modest, or they wear it because they believe God has told them to.

Exactly thoughts on the issue Brother

------ · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by Nerd

But isn't rather to submit to the command of Allah

That comes into BEING MODEST... !

Nerd · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by - Brok3n -

That comes into BEING MODEST... !

Yep. Its simply a package deal, you aren't wearing the hijab to show off your modesty (if thats the intention than it is indeed in vain you are wearing the hijab making it immodest); But rather you wear the Hijab to submit to Allah

------ · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

So erm whats the problem then?

Nerd · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

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Originally Posted by - Brok3n -

So erm whats the problem then?

The problem was, when some take hijab as a means to show off their modesty

------ · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

^ thats just daft

Qurratul Ayn · **Re: why no Hijab for men?? -** 05-20-2008

But why show off modesty?!

Hijaab is a protection against Shaytaan and evil deeds. Also, it is Fard upon women.

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crayon &we drive. Status: Offline Posts: 1,382 Reputation: 9543 Rep Power: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle East Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 Are you kidding me? How does that even make sense? So in your opinion nuns wear their habit to show off their modesty, and therefore are immodest? __________________ a photographer, check out my work. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, La Illaha Ila Allah (go on, make some takbeer! it's the first 10 days of the month of Dhul Hijjah!)

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Nerd LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 229 Reputation: 482 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Jun 2007 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 ^ Showing off is a kind of vanity and vanity is immodest, if you are wearing to the hijab to show off your modesty that makes it vain: making it immodest

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crayon &we drive. Status: Offline Posts: 1,382 Reputation: 9543 Rep Power: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Middle East Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 We do not wear hijab to show off our modesty, we wear our hijab to be modest. __________________ a photographer, check out my work. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, La Illaha Ila Allah (go on, make some takbeer! it's the first 10 days of the month of Dhul Hijjah!)

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------ Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 ^ That don't make sense @ Nerd. Lemme make it clear for you - women cover up because they belong to a man (their hubby or future to be) - if you had something really precious, you wudnt want people to share it with you, would u? The same way women keep themselves covered up for that one person... I dunno whether i explained it well.... Hmm...

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 Aww what happend to my post...opps. Anyhow, this is what it said kinda, Hijab linguistic is not the same, to some extent as the technical term. Hijab may mean screen and so forth, check surah Maryam when Mary, peace be upon him, took a screen, I think ayah 17. Now, your question should be, why is the male hijab different to the female. As for the Immortal and modesty thing I think he is right, but he is generalising, for example, salah is obligatory, but if one does it to show off, then it can have the opposite effect! Similarly hijab is obligatory, but if someone wears it to show off that they are supposedly modest they it may be wrong? But the whole point is that this is not the general reason, it is not the religious reason, noone should wear hijab to SHOW OFF their modesty, they may wear it to show that they try to be modest, or they wear it because they believe God has told them to. __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. Last edited by Al Habeshi; 05-20-2008 at 10:33 AM..

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------ Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 So erm whats the problem then?

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------ Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 ^ thats just daft

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Qurratul Ayn Conquer the Shaytaan Status: Offline Posts: 646 Reputation: 1545 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: United Kingdom Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: why no Hijab for men?? - 05-20-2008 But why show off modesty?! Hijaab is a protection against Shaytaan and evil deeds. Also, it is Fard upon women. __________________