Her intention wasn't to annoy us. she wanted to get her opinion out. we need to stop that

I have removed the link, let us refute her claims here. I have to go study now so I won't be posting anything but I hope that u will...

asalaam alaikum


A quick, short and sweet response:

For generations after generations through out human history people have been marrying at the age of 9 and 10. By 16 they were old enough to lead an entire battalion! For thousands and thousands of years human beings did not regard early marriages to be hazardous. If early pregnancies were hazardous, surely the human civilisation across the planet and through out the history should have noticed a pattern. Something like that cannot be missed out or ignored for thousands upon thousands of years so easily.

On the other hand contemporary medicine is known to have changed its stance on various issues several times. In the 70s the mothers in England were being told NOT to breastfeed. And now, women who do not breastfeed are looked down on.

A 9-year old Thai girl gave birth:


The news item is from the New Straits Times, 10/3/2001.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/thai_girl.htm

Asalaamu alaikum.


In Detail:

i heard theres a hadith in abi dawud where Aisha herself mentions that a marriage wasn't consummated by arabs until only after a females menses - her menses signifying her adulthood.


How is it possible that someone can have children and be a child? Their logic is confusing and they themselves throughout the different countries in the US, UK and Europe can't agree on a common age for adulthood. Try doing a little bit of research on this, but they differ - ranging from 13 till 18 - So does this mean that having sex in the Netherlands at 15 is peadophilia in the UK? Will anyone who follows the law of one nation be counted as a peadophile in another? Who's truly right?


The answers simple in Islam - if you're able to fulfill the duties of marriage, and are capable of it - then you can get married. However, if it will be harmful [and no-one can bring one shred of evidence that Aa'isha got harmed by her marriage, rather she benefited herself and billions of others in Islam (being in the top 5 narrators of ahadith), aswell as advancing in medicine studies] - which shows that she was perfectly normal and said nothing but good about the Prophet. Whereas a person abused would not praise their abuser willingly.



If someone said that a 9yr old isn't capable of having children or sex;

I would quote the following fatwa from Shaykh 'Abdul-'Azîz ibn Ahmad Ad-Durayhim:

As for the possible negative consequences of a man of such a mature age marrying such a young girl, it is patently obvious. The discrepancies in their capabilities, both physically and mentally, could bring about serious differences between the two of them that could lead to the failure of the marriage. This is something that has been seen and is well understood.

Therefore, I would not recommend such a marriage nor would I encourage it.

Moreover, with respect to what we have said about the legal validity of such a marriage, that refers to the validity of the contract itself. As for the effects of the marriage - such as privacy, intimacy and sexual relations - that is another matter entirely. Such things are permitted only if the girl is able to handle such a relationship without any harm whatsoever coming to. Otherwise, it is prohibited. This is because the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "There shall be no harm nor the causing of harm."

It can also be seen in the very conduct of the Prophet (peace be upon him). He did not consummate his marriage with 'A’ishah for a number of years on account of her young age.

And from the fatwâ committee supervised by Shaykh 'Abdul-Wahhâb At-Turayrî we note:

The lawfulness of consummating a marriage at such an age is contingent on the maturity of the girl and that no harm would come to her.

So if any harm would come from it, then it is unlawful i.e. harâm.


Q: So why didn't Islam prohibit such practices that are harmful?

Actually, it did. It would be impossible for Islam to have an explicit prohibition on every dangerous behavior from jumping off a scyscraper to smoking, so Islam has provided a single broad injunction to cover all instances of harm:

The Prophet Muhammad pbuh said,

لا ضرر ولا ضر

"There is to be no harming, nor reciprocating of harm." (Musnad Ahmad, authenticated by Al-Albânî)

And Allah knows best.

I replied, but I'm pretty sure she'll see as much sense as would a brick wall. She just seems to be that kind of hater.

Sighhh, this has put me in a crap mood. So much ignorance, so much hate.

I'd say get used to it (not being harsh). There's going to be more where that came from. You can try and talk to the blogger if you like, but I doubt you'll talk any sense into her; people who post such things without much proof are arrogant and are hard to get through to, and it's even harder over the internet.

My dear sister !
As far as alligations are concerned you can blame anyone for any reason.
Such alligations are usually from those who are advocating homosexuality and gay marriages and abortions.On this forum many people have spoken in favor of pornography and porn culture.
For psychiatric personalities ,sometimes it is essential to ignore them because they do such thing just to get attention.
Best of luck

how about a mod adjusts the title to something like:


refuting the claim "muslims are pedophiles?"


seriously..

salam, ignoring is nt the way! They should b thought in a good way about islam and if they then choose 2 mock about then dey r loosers

NOPEEEEEEEEE ignorin wont take us no where... well anythin they claim which its not ture.. we should prove em wrong... not to show off but to show em the truthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh n yeah i always wondered how to answer it .. but then i heard dr zakir naik answer it.so now i know.. n ido always go back n watch his videos to learn how to respond to some Q,s which ppl do ask.. . salamz

When you think about there are hundred if not thousands of websites like that out there. We can't practically go to each one and refute them.

The best thing for you to do is find a good website that has all these refutations listed already and just paste a link or something in the comments section... other than that, don't waste your time too much.

if its online ignore

if its in real life
whoop dem asses
cmon people!
Why u gna waste yo time wit this?!

I mean, like Malaikah said, there's millions of websites against islam...try googling "Islam sucks" and see what you'll get! (i havent try it, and i wont...coz i kno the results) Can we really refute all those???NO

here is the age of consent in the united states in 1885 with a website stating it was 7 in state of Delaware plus according to Jewish Law a girl maybe married at, website also included.. enjoy and pass it along to those who have a wide gapping mouth!

Waslaam



What is the minimum age of marriage according to Jewish law?
by Rabbi Naftali Silberberg

Our Sages state1 that "it is forbidden for one to marry off his daughter until she is an adult and says 'this is the one I want to marry.'"

It is forbidden for one to marry off his daughter until she is an adult and says 'this is the one I want to marry'!
In ancient (and not so ancient) times however, marriage was often-times celebrated at a rather young age. Although we do not follow this dictum, technically speaking, a girl may be betrothed the moment she is born, and married at the age of three.2 A boy may betroth and marry at the age of thirteen.3

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Footnotes

1. Talmud Kiddushin 41a.
2. Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 37:1.
3. Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 43:1.


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this one is from bringhamton.edu
of most states set the age of consent at the age of ten or twelve, and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven. Women reformers and advocates of social purity initiated a campaign in 1885 to petition legislators to raise the legal age of consent to at least sixteen,

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Campaign to Raise the Legal Age of Consent, 1885-1914, Lesson Plan