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Default Re: Muslims are pedophiles! - 06-04-2008

^ yeh bro

seriously we could say that all christians are gay and rapists then.
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Default Re: Muslims are pedophiles! - 06-05-2008

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Default Re: Muslims are pedophiles! - 06-05-2008

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Some girl on her blog, claimed that all muslims are pedophiles. I have removed the link from this post, because it will only make her blog more popular. Instead of commenting on the blog, let us refute her claims here on an honest islamic site. Basically the girl claimed that muslims were pedophiles because prophet Muhammad (PBUH) married Aisha when she was only a little girl. The rest is nonsense...I read the comments and none of them really refuted her claims. How would you respond?
We know we aren't pedophiles. Isn't that enough? Anybody who thinks its reasonable to make such idiotic generalisations about such a vast body of people is simply a moron.
   
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Some girl on her blog, claimed that all muslims are pedophiles. I have removed the link from this post, because it will only make her blog more popular. Instead of commenting on the blog, let us refute her claims here on an honest islamic site. Basically the girl claimed that muslims were pedophiles because prophet Muhammad (PBUH) married Aisha when she was only a little girl. The rest is nonsense...I read the comments and none of them really refuted her claims. How would you respond?
Somebody should've left a comment on the demented girl's blog stating how ignorant she is of history and of islam and of her own culture and religion. Someone should've point out to her how marrying a 9yr old was common back then among all religions and races, and a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now. Also, someone should've pointed out to her about how pedophilia christians still are. How the churches all over the world has been feeling up little girls' skirts and boy's shorts and hiding it rather then stopping it. How you hear story of men in christian countries, among christians lock their own daughters in the basement and rape her and father 7 kids from her or how they kiddie porn, molestation, and fantasies are so popular in the west.
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Default Re: Muslims are pedophiles! - 06-10-2008

"a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now"

Anyone have any evidence of this?
   
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Default Re: Muslims are pedophiles! - 06-10-2008

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"a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now"

Anyone have any evidence of this?
do a little research in western history alone, look into topics such as

marriage age
life expectancy
maturity and development

or rather yet, go ask your grandparents.
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Default Re: "Muslims are pedophiles!" - 06-11-2008

Islamirama, everyone I talk to seems to be of the opinion that girls develop at a much earlier age now days. There even seems to be a debate in some circles as to the effects of growth hormones fed to animals resulting in an accelerated growth rate in girls and boys.

This leaves me asking again:

"a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now"

Anyone have any evidence of this?

do a little research in western history alone

Surely you aren’t asking me for help in providing proof for something I consider to be unprovable?

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Default Re: "Muslims are pedophiles!" - 06-12-2008

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Islamirama, everyone I talk to seems to be of the opinion that girls develop at a much earlier age now days. There even seems to be a debate in some circles as to the effects of growth hormones fed to animals resulting in an accelerated growth rate in girls and boys.

This leaves me asking again:

"a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now"

Anyone have any evidence of this?

do a little research in western history alone

Surely you aren’t asking me for help in providing proof for something I consider to be unprovable?

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The early puberty you are seeing today is not normal biological development, what you are seeing is the results of your people living on chemical trash that you call food. Look at the bigger picture, girls (and boys) are hitting puberty at early as 8 are in the western "developed" nations.

The natural biological development of girls in the older days was not limited to a chemically fed nation but rather a world wide thing. Whether the arabs were marrying young girls or the crusaders in middle ages or what not.

You main beef is that prophet (pbuh) was married to a 9yr old girl. And your ignorance won't let you get pass the historical facts of the society back then, and not just that society. Aisha r.a. (the prophet's wife) was engaged to somebody else at that time. The pagan arabs hated the Prophet (pbuh) and went to great lengths to attack him by all means, but even they didn't saying thing about this marriage. Why? because it was the norm at that time.

I don't need to provide any proofs to you, some people are just loud mouth and just like to talk. So why don't you go do some research for a change. And if you are that lazy then go ask your grandparents, if they are still alive. Ask them how old were they when they got married, ask them how old was their parents when they got married? ask them how old there grandparents were when they got married. That alone should be sufficient to open that little mind of yours to the reality.
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The early puberty you are seeing today is not normal biological development, what you are seeing is the results of your people living on chemical trash that you call food. Look at the bigger picture, girls (and boys) are hitting puberty at early as 8 are in the western "developed" nations.
^Exactly. They add hormones in things such as milk! That's how u get unbalanced hormones
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Default Re: "Muslims are pedophiles!" - 06-12-2008

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Islamirama, everyone I talk to seems to be of the opinion that girls develop at a much earlier age now days. There even seems to be a debate in some circles as to the effects of growth hormones fed to animals resulting in an accelerated growth rate in girls and boys.

This leaves me asking again:

"a 9yr old in those days is more developed and mature then she is right now"

Anyone have any evidence of this?

do a little research in western history alone

Surely you aren’t asking me for help in providing proof for something I consider to be unprovable?

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- pedophile- An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children

Christians are the real pedophiles. The whole church is full of them not just today but something that's been going on for centuries!
Then you have christian men who likes to lock up their own daughters in the basements to rape and father 7 childrens thru them. You have christians who jump online to lure teen girls to have sex with them. You have christian men talking about how younger a girl they can get to knock off. You have christians molest little girls everyday. The courts are full of their cases as well as the social services. So how about you go fix your pedophilic society before you start supporting bigots who post such crap about others onlinle. Also there is a difference between MARRIAGE and pedophlic christians who molest little girls and boys.

As for early age MARRIAGE is concerned. This is something not only Muslims but christians and rest of the world did. Even then Muslims were better than the christians and jews, jews own talmud allows them to have sex with a 3yr old. How pathetic is that? and how ignorantly pathetic are the bigoted fools who attack Islam with accusations that their own history and present is full of.

Here's a little reading for you with some "proofs" you were looking for on early age marriage.
http://www.muhaddith.org/earlymarriage/Index.html
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Islamirama, I don’t want to argue with you, that is not my intent. But what you are posting makes no sense. First you say girls developed at an earlier age back in the day, when you are asked for proof, you then state that the girls develop at an earlier age now days due to the counter-points I had already stated.

I am not trying to make anyone look foolish; however your own posts are making you look foolish. Perhaps you have a valid argument, but the way you are presenting it makes you look foolish.

Please don’t be offended but, when you present your arguments in the manner that you have it might make a person think:

Islamirama presented a foolish argument therefore he can be taken in by any foolish idea and perhaps his belief in Islam is an example of that”.

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Islamirama, I hope my replies aren’t coming across as ugly and insulting as yours are:

Islamirama “You main beef is that prophet (pbuh) was married to a 9yr old girl. And your ignorance won't let you get pass the historical facts of the society back then, and not just that society. Aisha r.a. (the prophet's wife) was engaged to somebody else at that time. The pagan arabs hated the Prophet (pbuh) and went to great lengths to attack him by all means, but even they didn't saying thing about this marriage. Why? because it was the norm at that time.

I don't need to provide any proofs to you, some people are just loud mouth and just like to talk. So why don't you go do some research for a change. And if you are that lazy then go ask your grandparents, if they are still alive. Ask them how old were they when they got married, ask them how old was their parents when they got married? ask them how old there grandparents were when they got married. That alone should be sufficient to open that little mind of yours to the reality
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Islamirama, I don’t want to argue with you, that is not my intent. But what you are posting makes no sense. First you say girls developed at an earlier age back in the day, when you are asked for proof, you then state that the girls develop at an earlier age now days due to the counter-points I had already stated.

I am not trying to make anyone look foolish; however your own posts are making you look foolish. Perhaps you have a valid argument, but the way you are presenting it makes you look foolish.

Please don’t be offended but, when you present your arguments in the manner that you have it might make a person think:

Islamirama presented a foolish argument therefore he can be taken in by any foolish idea and perhaps his belief in Islam is an example of that”.

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Perhaps you should look at it with a more open mind. My point still stands and your counter point stands as well but has no bearing on my point.

I stated that girls matured and hit puberty at a much earlier age in the old days and you countered that with the statement that girls are doing that today. But you failed to understand the reasoning behind the two which i explained to you.

The girls reached maturity and early development in the old days due to number of reasons, among which some include culture/society, weather/environment, and low life expectancy.

The girls who hit puberty at early age today are a direct result of the chemically contaminated food you feed your people. This early puberty is not world wide but rather limited to your western nations who eat chemically altered food. And this early puberty has come about in the recent decades, not something that was common in 50yrs ago.

So before you throw the foolish card at me, you sure it's not you who needs the card? Like i said, go ask your grandparents about early development and early age marriage. What are you afraid of?

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Islamirama, I hope my replies aren’t coming across as ugly and insulting as yours are:

Islamirama “You main beef is that prophet (pbuh) was married to a 9yr old girl. And your ignorance won't let you get pass the historical facts of the society back then, and not just that society. Aisha r.a. (the prophet's wife) was engaged to somebody else at that time. The pagan arabs hated the Prophet (pbuh) and went to great lengths to attack him by all means, but even they didn't saying thing about this marriage. Why? because it was the norm at that time.

I don't need to provide any proofs to you, some people are just loud mouth and just like to talk. So why don't you go do some research for a change. And if you are that lazy then go ask your grandparents, if they are still alive. Ask them how old were they when they got married, ask them how old was their parents when they got married? ask them how old there grandparents were when they got married. That alone should be sufficient to open that little mind of yours to the reality
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Yea that wasn't necessary, i tried deleting it but it didn't do it so i just left it.
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Islamirama “Christians are the real pedophiles. The whole church is full of them”……Good grief
   
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Just like to point out that Aisha was not a child when they got married... she had reach puberty.
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