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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
I found this line above
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/032.qmt.html site.

I have a question regarding this.
If Allah is compassionate and merciful then
why He puts His best creatures human being to sufferings?

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Peace my dear.....

when you love someone you will bear all the sufferings my dear ???

Allah loves to test his servants to see that true servant refuge to him asking him for his mercy to give that servant more and more than mercy...

you won`t take with out giving and Allah doing this to his servants to make them give more and more then he will reward them with something more than the suffering he put them in...see Allah is The Most Compassionate The Most Mercifull my dear...

he won`t give you if you did not do the good deeds or left the bad deeds so,Allah is pushing his servants to turn to him to give them more and more....

I wish you will understand what I meant my dear....

may Allah guide you and reward you with paradise....

Ameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

peace...

your sister with all my respect:

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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
I found this line above
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/032.qmt.html site.

I have a question regarding this.
If Allah is compassionate and merciful then
why He puts His best creatures human being to sufferings?

please let me know.
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

i've seen some of your posts and i have my doubts on whether or not you have one single sincere question regarding Islam.

that being said, you don't' "FIND this line" ANYWHERE as it perhaps one of the 3 MOST repeated lines in Islam IF NOT THE VERY MOST! EVERY Surah, but one, begins with it and EVERYTHING we do BEGINS with it!

why don't you take a moment to tell us why you suddenly interested in anything but propagating whatever it is you have substituted for worshiping Allah, Subhannahu Wa Ta' Aala.

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1) He puts us through tests. If we are not tested, we learn nothing.
2) Yes He does put us through trials and tribulations but one should never forget the wonderful gifts he gives us, namely life. True appreciation of these gifts is shown via total submission to God aka Islam.
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This particular question is related to the problem of evil which has already been discussed here (Problem of evil [temp. split from TEOG thread]).
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1) He puts us through tests. If we are not tested, we learn nothing.
2) Yes He does put us through trials and tribulations but one should never forget the wonderful gifts he gives us, namely life. True appreciation of these gifts is shown via total submission to God aka Islam.
He puts us through tests. If we are not tested, we learn nothing.

-- test must be equal. its common sense. we dont require any religous knowlege. I am sure Almightly God knows that!

but one should never forget the wonderful gifts he gives us, namely life

ask the person in the image whether life is beautiful is or not. u will get
your anser. its easy to say life is beautiful sitting in air conditionar room.



Note: brothers its not possible to argue with everyone here. it will simple
waste time and energy. if its possible to arugue with most accepted person
in this forum then i will argue. otherwise "many man many minds" will hapen
and we will distract naturally from the topic. please let me know if it is possible.

if this is possible then pls let me know then i will discuss learned person only.
   
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Note: brothers its not possible to argue with everyone here. it will simple
waste time and energy. if its possible to arugue with most accepted person
in this forum then i will argue. otherwise "many man many minds" will hapen
and we will distract naturally from the topic. please let me know if it is possible.

if this is possible then pls let me know then i will discuss learned person only.
"take me to your leader".
hmmmm... i do not think we have a Most Accepted Person or a Big Chief of Muslims here, so probably we don't have anyone worthy of your time and energy.
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
I found this line above
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/032.qmt.html site.

I have a question regarding this.
If Allah is compassionate and merciful then
why He puts His best creatures human being to sufferings?

please let me know.

Why God put his best creature to sufferings?
If humans face no suffering..they'll forget God.

For example, if you are healthy... do you have the time to remember God? Not really, because you want to fill most of your time doing so many things.

And suddenly you've got a fever.... then you remember God as you want him to end your fever.

the longer you endure the suffering.. the more you remember God...the more you remember God... the more God remember you and love you.

A suffering person got lots of merits than a healthy and well-to-do person, as long as that suffering person remembers God.
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He puts us through tests. If we are not tested, we learn nothing.

-- test must be equal. its common sense. we dont require any religous knowlege. I am sure Almightly God knows that!
Common sense of a human being is flawed/biased like you put it so many times Chinmoy.
   
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Common sense of a human being is flawed/biased like you put it so many times Chinmoy.
again jugglery of words and tricky way avoiding questions!
you know that human beings also include whom ...(not need to mention otherwise my post will be deleted)

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He puts us through tests. If we are not tested, we learn nothing.

-- test must be equal. its common sense. we dont require any religous knowlege. I am sure Almightly God knows that!
Incorrect; we are not all tested for the same things nor is it done at the same time. A young child, say 3 years old, will have far different tests to someone who is being say married or going for a job interview. Some tests overalp but not all.

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but one should never forget the wonderful gifts he gives us, namely life

ask the person in the image whether life is beautiful is or not. u will get
your anser. its easy to say life is beautiful sitting in air conditionar room.
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1) perhaps that person in the picture is a form of test to us. Or rather a reminder as to why we should be grateful for the great life we have.
2) Do you have any younger siblings? Have you not smiled alongside them and wish that their life is not wasted?
3) Life is a gift - it really doesn't take long to understand that. As a religious person yourself, surely you should know this. Unless of course your religion doesn't teach you the value of life, which'd mean it's ''incomplete'' - to quote you.

We don't do one on ones here. It's a discussion forum and all are welcome - no discrimination
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again jugglery of words and tricky way avoiding questions!
you know that human beings also include whom ...(not need to mention otherwise my post will be deleted)

But i m not gonna again to that dispute.
I wasn't answering your question, but rather commenting on what you have stated.
   
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I thought I'd add something which I haven't seen,

It has been narrated:
Abu Sa`id and Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (PBUH) said:

"Never a believer is stricken with a discomfort, an illness, an anxiety, a grief or mental worry or even the pricking of a thorn but Allah will expiate his sins on account of his patience".[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Also,
{The most miserable man in the world of those meant for Paradise will be dipped once in Paradise. Then he will be asked, “Son of Adam, did you ever face any misery? Did you ever experience any hardship?” So he will say, “No, by God, O Lord! I never faced any misery, and I never experienced any hardship.”}Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2807
The tests mankind goes through, insha'Allah, will be rewarded if mankind deals with the test in an appropiate manner. We should also remember that, Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope.2:286

And Almighty God knows best.
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1. Why a child is after birth dead or dead in mothers womb?
2. why a child is blind by birth?
3. why a child is perfectly aliright by birth?
4. why a child by birth have mental disorder?

there are many examples..

So why God will make injustice to them?
Why God will make Discrimination to His best Creatures?

My quesion is What is The Cause of that? I am reapeating What is the Cause of above quesions(1,2,3,4)?


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Never a believer is stricken with a discomfort, an illness, an anxiety...

-- incorrect.
because a child is not matured.newly born baby dont know good or bad.then what to speak
of belive or disbelive?


I never faced any misery, and I never experienced any hardship.

-- incorrect
after getting sufferings if one said that o i never faced any sufferings! he is telling lie to God!

Rather its natural he will quesion to God why you put me in sufferings and why not others?

aamirsaab wrote:
perhaps that person in the picture is a form of test to us.

-- incorrect.
if it is, then why you are not chosen by Allah in the form of a test-case or guinea pig?

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There is a simple answer to all your questions. It is a test. If we have patience and pass it Allaah will reward us with Jannah InshaaAllaah. If we fail and turn away from Allaah, we will go to hell. It's that simple.
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