Non-muslims allowed in a mosque?

Mohsin · **Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 10-20-2006

My brother goes to a private school, which is kind of at the back of a church. Ok my bro prays there sometimes. This other non-muslim girl also goes to the school and saw them praying, and apparently said "If it was a nmosque, they wouldn't let us pray, so why are they allowed to pray here". So my bro and his mates are kinda in the dog huse now and may be no longer allowed to pray there cos its a church.

iA they are going to sort something out, as in get a seperate room etc, but my question is, is it true non-muslims are not allowed in a mosque. I'm sure this is not right, I recall some hadith where the prophet pbuh was in a discussion wuth christians, and when the time came the christians started praying in the msoque and the prophet pbuh permitted it. does anybody know the full hadith so i can show it to this non-muslim??

Jk khairun

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 10-21-2006

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Originally Posted by IslamToday

Al-Bukhârî gives a chapter of his Sahîh the following title: “Unbelievers Entering the Mosque”. In this chapter, he cites the hadîth where the Prophet (peace be upon him) confined Thumâmah b. Athâl in the mosque.

It is impossible for anyone to overlook the fact that the polytheists would enter the mosque in order to accept Islam or to hear the Message from the Prophet (peace be upon him) or to argue or for some need, as was the case with the Christian delegation from Najrân. They spent a good number of days camped out in a corner of the mosque. Also, the Christian Ethiopians engaged in spear play in the mosque in the presence of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions.

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Originally Posted by IslamQA

There is nothing wrong with non-Muslims entering the mosque if it is for a legitimate shar’i purpose or for a permissible reason, such as listening to lessons or drinking water, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) let some of the non-Muslim delegations stay in his mosque, so that they could see the people praying and listen to his recitation of Qur’aan and his sermons, and so that they could call them to Allaah from close at hand. And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) tied up Thumaamah ibn Athaal al-Hanafi in the mosque when he was brought to him as a prisoner of war, and Allaah guided him and he became a Muslim. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

From Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), vol. 8, p.356

But with regard to groups of tourists entering mosques just to look around, accompanied by woman who are improperly dressed and carrying cameras, who enter mosques without respect, this is a great wrong which should not be allowed. And Allaah is the One Whose help we seek.

GARY · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Mohsin

My brother goes to a private school, which is kind of at the back of a church. Ok my bro prays there sometimes. This other non-muslim girl also goes to the school and saw them praying, and apparently said "If it was a nmosque, they wouldn't let us pray, so why are they allowed to pray here". So my bro and his mates are kinda in the dog huse now and may be no longer allowed to pray there cos its a church.

iA they are going to sort something out, as in get a seperate room etc, but my question is, is it true non-muslims are not allowed in a mosque. I'm sure this is not right, I recall some hadith where the prophet pbuh was in a discussion wuth christians, and when the time came the christians started praying in the msoque and the prophet pbuh permitted it. does anybody know the full hadith so i can show it to this non-muslim??

Jk khairun

The problem seemed to stem from doing muslim prayers in the church. So the question to be fair, should be about whether or not a christian or other faith besides a muslim, would be permitted to do their prayers or other religious rituals inside a mosque.

Mohsin · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by GARY

The problem seemed to stem from doing muslim prayers in the church. So the question to be fair, should be about whether or not a christian or other faith besides a muslim, would be permitted to do their prayers or other religious rituals inside a mosque.

There is a hadithwhere the prophet pbuh was in discussion with christians in the mosque and then the christians stopped to pray there and the prophet pbuh let them

i have asked one of my local imaams about whether christians are allowed inside. the sheikh said of course, so many non-muslims come here to convert and give shahada. in fact the very day b4 i asked him there were 2 memebers from the local church invited to have iftaar with the mosque

anway he said christians are allowed to come in as long as they are clean, and if they want to do du'a (supplication) then they are free to. they are not however allowed to bring crosses or pictures of jesus or anything like that

he said he doesnt understand why the church doesnt allow the muslism to pray, they are only going to do salah, not preach or have pictures of the ka'bah or anything like that put up.

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

I didnt even know Muslims can pray in a Church, I read something about even entering a place with pictures and so on, so I don't get it, thats why Im keeping away from church.

GARY · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Mohsin

he said he doesnt understand why the church doesnt allow the muslism to pray, they are only going to do salah, not preach or have pictures of the ka'bah or anything like that put up.

My understanding is that this differs from church to church. I think it is an individual church thing.

Mohsin · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by GARY

My understanding is that this differs from church to church. I think it is an individual church thing.

yes i also think that. i knwo of many churches who do allow muslims to pray there. the same is true probably of mosques as well.

**Woodrow** · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

Before I moved to Austin, sometimes it was difficult for me to get to the Mosque. I used to pray in the local Methodist Church. The pastor knew I was Muslim and so did all of the members. It did not present any problems. The UMC do not use any pictures or statues in their church so except for the pews it is very plain and simple with no distracting art work.

Pk_#2 · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

Churches around me have pictures all around them,

i can also go in there whenever i like,

and vice versa, non-muslims go to our mosque but they don't pray there just talk to the imam and that,

once ma headteacher went, one of the brothers gave her a translation of the Quran hehe

hoping to convert her i think,

buh anyways TC

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by tasmiyah_B

Churches around me have pictures all around them,

i can also go in there whenever i like,

and vice versa, non-muslims go to our mosque but they don't pray there just talk to the imam and that,

once ma headteacher went, one of the brothers gave her a translation of the Quran hehe

hoping to convert her i think,

buh anyways TC

And was she dressed properly?

Dawud_uk · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

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Originally Posted by Mohsin

My brother goes to a private school, which is kind of at the back of a church. Ok my bro prays there sometimes. This other non-muslim girl also goes to the school and saw them praying, and apparently said "If it was a nmosque, they wouldn't let us pray, so why are they allowed to pray here". So my bro and his mates are kinda in the dog huse now and may be no longer allowed to pray there cos its a church.

iA they are going to sort something out, as in get a seperate room etc, but my question is, is it true non-muslims are not allowed in a mosque. I'm sure this is not right, I recall some hadith where the prophet pbuh was in a discussion wuth christians, and when the time came the christians started praying in the msoque and the prophet pbuh permitted it. does anybody know the full hadith so i can show it to this non-muslim??

Jk khairun

assalaamu alaykum,

we a local deacon who comes into our masjid and prays like we do in the line with us. he is however a trinitarian christian and the alim who imam of the masjid said although he is not muslim the saff is still complete as we should treat him kindly and is like having a pillar between you and the next brother.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

Pk_#2 · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-07-2006

AsalamuAlaykum bro,

well she dresses in a well manner all the time, :wub: lol

Buh one of the students put a head scarf on her, she doesn't usually wear one, and she looked soo pretty lol

well yeah she did, dress properly,

Any lutonians here?

well she went to madina mosque and it's well small there, buh they gave her a tour, even gave her free books from the mosque library, and she seemed to like it

Grace Seeker · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-08-2006

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Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

assalaamu alaykum,

we a local deacon who comes into our masjid and prays like we do in the line with us. he is however a trinitarian christian and the alim who imam of the masjid said although he is not muslim the saff is still complete as we should treat him kindly and is like having a pillar between you and the next brother.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

hahahaha

I guess I have been a pillar a time or two myself then. For though a Christian, I found that I was always welcome to pray when I went to mosque with my Muslim daughter. And she was always welcome to pray when she went to church with me. We even celebrated Ramadan together and she had a role in the church youth's Christmas play.

syilla · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-08-2006

^^^wow...you went to the mosque with your muslim daughter...

is you daughter married btw...

sorry if i asked too much....

not that i want to marry your daughter hehe....

Grace Seeker · **Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? -** 11-08-2006

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Originally Posted by syilla

^^^wow...you went to the mosque with your muslim daughter...

is you daughter married btw...

sorry if i asked too much....

not that i want to marry your daughter hehe....

Of course I would. She is my daughter. I love her and support her in all things.

No, she is not married. And she plans to only marry a Muslim. Though I have known her to date non-Muslims. But, right now I don't think she is seriously looking.

And may I ask why you seem surprised that I would go to a mosque with her?

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Mohsin Brother In Islam Status: Offline Posts: 1,139 Reputation: 1531 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 10-20-2006 My brother goes to a private school, which is kind of at the back of a church. Ok my bro prays there sometimes. This other non-muslim girl also goes to the school and saw them praying, and apparently said "If it was a nmosque, they wouldn't let us pray, so why are they allowed to pray here". So my bro and his mates are kinda in the dog huse now and may be no longer allowed to pray there cos its a church. iA they are going to sort something out, as in get a seperate room etc, but my question is, is it true non-muslims are not allowed in a mosque. I'm sure this is not right, I recall some hadith where the prophet pbuh was in a discussion wuth christians, and when the time came the christians started praying in the msoque and the prophet pbuh permitted it. does anybody know the full hadith so i can show it to this non-muslim?? Jk khairun __________________ IsLaM - EnJoIn ThE GoOd, FoRbId ThE EvIl Isoc Movie

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 11-07-2006 I didnt even know Muslims can pray in a Church, I read something about even entering a place with pictures and so on, so I don't get it, thats why Im keeping away from church. __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.

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Woodrow Abdullah Muhammad Status: Offline Posts: 11,242 Reputation: 59186 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 11-07-2006 Before I moved to Austin, sometimes it was difficult for me to get to the Mosque. I used to pray in the local Methodist Church. The pastor knew I was Muslim and so did all of the members. It did not present any problems. The UMC do not use any pictures or statues in their church so except for the pews it is very plain and simple with no distracting art work. __________________

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 11-07-2006 Churches around me have pictures all around them, i can also go in there whenever i like, and vice versa, non-muslims go to our mosque but they don't pray there just talk to the imam and that, once ma headteacher went, one of the brothers gave her a translation of the Quran hehe hoping to convert her i think, buh anyways TC

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 11-07-2006 AsalamuAlaykum bro, well she dresses in a well manner all the time, :wub: lol Buh one of the students put a head scarf on her, she doesn't usually wear one, and she looked soo pretty lol well yeah she did, dress properly, Any lutonians here? well she went to madina mosque and it's well small there, buh they gave her a tour, even gave her free books from the mosque library, and she seemed to like it

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syilla not trying hard enuf Status: Offline Posts: 4,565 Reputation: 14902 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Non-muslims allowed in a mosque? - 11-08-2006 ^^^wow...you went to the mosque with your muslim daughter... is you daughter married btw... sorry if i asked too much.... not that i want to marry your daughter hehe.... __________________ 25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.