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I know that when i started to grow the beard (by the will of Allaah), i found it quite difficult.. but once i accepted it personally myself - then no matter what others said, it never put me off it since i had set my mind to it whole heartedly.

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Someone once said that if you don't sacrifice for the sake of Allaah, then how much do you really value your faith? Because i remember that before when i learnt about islaam, i was trying to change myself inwardly.. and the beard was the main first step which i took outwardly, i knew this would be the beginning to my trials, since hellfire is surrounded by lusts & desires and paradise is surrounded by hardships and disliked things [according to a prophetic saying.]
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Thanks all of you so much for your answers, you're really helping me, may Allah reward you all with all good and protect you from all harm.

Well I am wearing hijab already but my parents are so angry.
Now they have stated that I must just not wear it at home with them or at my sister's houses 'out of respect' for them.
I have told I do respect them but this is trying to take away my right to practice my religion. I feel they may be ashamed or embarrassed to be seen with me in hijab

I have refused to take it off even if it means staying away so they are very annoyed, please pray dua for them that their hearts and minds open soon.

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Thanks all of you so much for your answers, you're really helping me, may Allah reward you all with all good and protect you from all harm.

Well I am wearing hijab already but my parents are so angry.
Now they have stated that I must just not wear it at home with them or at my sister's houses 'out of respect' for them.
I have told I do respect them but this is trying to take away my right to practice my religion. I feel they may be ashamed or embarrassed to be seen with me in hijab

I have refused to take it off even if it means staying away so they are very annoyed, please pray dua for them that their hearts and minds open soon.

Jazak Allah brothers and sisters

You know hijaab is mainly for outdoors and/or when strangers/mariageable men are inside your parent's house. I don't believe that it is for your family and or other pious women.

   
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You know hijaab is mainly for outdoors and/or when strangers/mariageable men are inside your parent's house. I don't believe that it is for your family and or other pious women.

Yes I know , I explained this to them...it fell on deaf ears ....

also on a different point , i would just say that i think saying 'marriageable' men is a bit dangerous ...because non-Muslims are not marriageable for us so one could say then that we could not wear it in front of non-muslim men.....which is of course untrue.....hope you don't mind me saying so :-)

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Yes I know , I explained this to them...it fell on deaf ears ....

also remember that it is not possible to change a person's mind with constant argument. or to make them think (even unintentionaly) that every thing they held dear for so long is false.

In this situation the only solution I see is love, yes love them and show it thru deed and action (yes, even in face of abuse)

A person used to empty a trash can on Prophet of Allah on his way to Mosque. one day it did not happen and Rasul Allah became worried about the well being of the abuser and went to enquire about that person,s health.

   
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also on a different point , i would just say that i think saying 'marriageable' men is a bit dangerous ...because non-Muslims are not marriageable for us so one could say then that we could not wear it in front of non-muslim men.....which is of course untrue.....hope you don't mind me saying so :-)
I thought word "strangers" would cover that situation

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also remember that it is not possible to change a person's mind with constant argument. or to make them think (even unintentionaly) that every thing they held dear for so long is false.

In this situation the only solution I see is love, yes love them and show it thru deed and action (yes, even in face of abuse)

A person used to empty a trash can on Prophet of Allah on his way to Mosque. one day it did not happen and Rasul Allah became worried about the well being of the abuser and went to enquire about that person,s health.

Yes you are right...I have not been angry with them in my response just pleading with them to understand, but i will give them time and hopefully it will sink in. I don't live with them so i hope i can get an opportunity to show them how much i love them, its upsetting for them i know , and i feel guilty for hurting them..thanks for your post, its really an excellent inspiration to me.

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I try my best to keep away from sites like islamqa.com for I fear that they could pose danger to my eemaan


What?! How so? Just because they favour the niqaab opinion doesn't mean they are a threat to anyones imaan!

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also on a different point , i would just say that i think saying 'marriageable' men is a bit dangerous ...because non-Muslims are not marriageable for us so one could say then that we could not wear it in front of non-muslim men.....which is of course untrue.....hope you don't mind me saying so :-)


You should say permanently non-marriagable, that is more accurate, while we can't marry non-muslim men, they have the potential to become marriagable if they convert to Islam, whereas a relative is always a relative and we can't change that.

(Is marriagable even a word? )
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I take it that you have not read all his "fatawah".

Read them all then we'll talk

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I take it that you have not read all his "fatawah".


Only a super human could read all the fatwa on his website...

Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean you should think badly of him.
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Wearing the Hijab, like many other things, is open to interperations. You can read a verse, and either interperate it your own way. But the best thing to do is to look at the Prophet and his hadiths regarding it. In the Quran it tells you to: Follow the Quran, the Prophet, and those invested with knowledge (of Islam). If you cannot figure it out from the Quran, second action is to look at what the Holy Prophet says about it.

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Default Re: We are not required to wear Hijab- please help me refute - 04-26-2007

Salam Alay Koom:

My Sister(s) Qur'an is it's own Argument and Answer and Command.

Does anything Override or Contradict the Qur'an? No.

Go get an Arabic Dictionary and look up the actual word: Khimar. It is a face veil. I do not have to give you the verse, because you know it: Draw the Veil across their bosoms. It did not say "Niqab". To be more specific, the word is Khumurihinna, making it clearly a female face veil.

Question? Do the tell Nuns to remove their headpiece / "Hijab"? Then you can wear your Hijab and Khimar.

What is usually the most beautiful part of a woman? <I>Her Face</I>. So do what The God says.

Who is more important? the Humanity that you might be here with from zero to maybe a hundred or so years, or The God who you are trying to be with <I>Forever</I>?

Allah Makes the Law our job is to follow it (Q 6:155-156... I would say the whole section) it also tells you to beware of those who would beguile- trick you from what is sent down (Q 5:52)

There is also a place that deals with when your family wants you to do other than what The God says (Q 29:8).

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Ok I looked at the link, the evidence it provides are that niqab is obligatory not just hijab.

So I am still doing wrong then just wearing hijab?

I can't provide this as evidence to them unless I wear niqab and it was hard enough to put on the hijab , I don't think I can manage niqab
Sis i wonder if u realized what u jus said.

You said u could only use that as evidence if u were wearing niqab. Niqab is a step further than Hijab. And when ur wearing niqab, ur also covering your hair. It wouldnt make sense to wear niqab with your hair uncovered So I'm pretty sure u can use it

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I think what she meant was that in order to convince them, she would have to actually wear the niqab to prove her point, and she's not ready to do something like that.

Here's my advice, sister, and I hope it helps: I think that you are very courageous and your courage is to be admired for taking a step towards Allah even with this great obstacle. May Allah help you get through this (hopefully very short) part of your life. One very important thing to keep in mind is to keep your relationship with your parents as good as possible. If you were very close before you became Muslim, become even closer now. Show them that you love them, that you appreciate them, that your love for them will go on forever, ...they are your parents, the ones who brought you up from when you were born. So show them how much you love them, go spend a lot of time with them, buy them gifts, help them around the house, etc. They will not be convinced of your decision by your words as you've said a few times in this thread, but by the kindness in your actions.

My mother is also a revert and her parents (my grandparents) weren't very happy about the hijab either, but they accepted it, and pretty quickly too. It's hard for non-Muslims to understand the use of it, so don't argue with them or try to convince them. Just be civilized and "agree to disagree". They will accept your decision before long insha-Allah. Nobody wants to be in a conflict forever. Just try your best to show them that you love them, and that your decision to become a Muslimah is something positive.

As for the niqab, Allahu 3alam, but I definetely think you should postpone thinking about that for some time. Get comfortable in your hijab first, however long it might take, and then when you're ready to move on, start investigating the matter of niqab and whether it's a must or not. So my advice is to just leave the niqab issue for now.

Peace sister, and may Allah reward you for your effort
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