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Default Re: Islam and Apostasy - 05-05-2006

Assalamu alaikumwa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

Yeah and not just the West loads of other places. Russia definitely and Marge1 can give you a nice list since the question was addressed to her. Hee hee.
   
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Yep. In WW1 British soldiers were shot because they had breakdowns due to the fear of the war. They didn't run away and scream they started to shiver and cry and if killing them isn't inhuman then what is?
   
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Default Re: Islam and Apostasy - 05-05-2006

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Yep. In WW1 British soldiers were shot because they had breakdowns due to the fear of the war. They didn't run away and scream they started to shiver and cry and if killing them isn't inhuman then what is?
Yes, in a war situation these things happen. I guess it's the only way to keep a losing army from disbanding.
Not that I agree with it!
In times of war the whole world goes mad!

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Default Re: Islam and Apostasy - 05-09-2006

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

Their mental state is now referred to as shell-shock.
In Russia in 1918 the following orders were given to the Red Army by Trotsky:
Every scoundrel who incites anyone to retreat, to desert, or not to fulfil a military order, will be shot.
Every soldier of the Red Army who voluntarily deserts his post will be shot.
Every soldier who throws away his rifal will be shot.


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Harsh way of putting it don't you agree?
Definitely.
   
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Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatu

Their mental state is now referred to as shell-shock.
In Russia in 1918 the following orders were given to the Red Army by Trotsky:
Every scoundrel who incites anyone to retreat, to desert, or not to fulfil a military order, will be shot.
Every soldier of the Red Army who voluntarily deserts his post will be shot.
Every soldier who throws away his rifal will be shot.


Harsh way of putting it don't you agree?
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Default Re: Islam and Apostasy - 05-25-2006

For some odd reason the last 5 pages of this thread were transferred to a new thread: "Factors in Loosing (misspelled) Faith" (Factors in Losing Faith)

So if anyone wants to follow up the continuation of the discussion please go there.

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Yep. In WW1 British soldiers were shot because they had breakdowns due to the fear of the war. They didn't run away and scream they started to shiver and cry and if killing them isn't inhuman then what is?
I'm not sure about this. I know soldiers could be shot for desertion, but for shell shock? Many soldiers suffering from shell shock (or neurasthenia as it was known to doctors) got taken to Craiglockhart Military Hospital in Edinburgh for treatment.

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Default Re: Islam and Apostasy - 06-09-2006

no sectarian articles - please refer to the first post for the correct understanding of this issue.
   
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Why did he think that females are to be spared? Female adulterers and murderers should be put to death in an Islamic State right?
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Why did [Imam Abu Hanifa] think that females are to be spared? Female adulterers and murderers should be put to death in an Islamic State right?
It stems from the understanding that this punishment is in reality a punishment for the protection and preservation of society. The Islamic state takes action against those who pose a threat to the security of the state, and Imam Abu Hanifah held that a woman was unlikely to pose such a threat. As such, he compared the apostate woman to the originally disbelieving woman. (Ibn Rushd, Bidayatul Mujtahid [Eng. Trans.], vol 2. p. 552)
a female apostate is not liable to the death penalty since she is not in any position to fight against Islam (Sarakhsi, Masbut vol. 10, pp. 108-110)
Whatever the case, others have stated otherwise. Please refer to the following to articles for a better understanding of this issue:
Narration 7

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