Assalamu alykum,
You know for sure the following verse:
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create! (23:14).
I showed some people the verse and they said that in fact muscles develop before (or at the same) the bones.

So what's wrong ?

up please

maybe its because im half asleep, but how does that contradict the verse?

Because it says Allah maketh the bones and then clotheth them with flesh(which is basically muscles), whereas BleroX claims the flesh develops before/simoltaniously with the bones. The verse suggests the flesh comes after or at the same time as the bones, so perhaps there's no contradiction...

Scientifically speaking, Do muscles come before or after bones ?

Let me revise this.
The verse say Allah clothes the bones with flesh, which may suggest the bones are totally formed before any formation of muscles takes place...

OK, little attension plz:-
Quran doesn't speak med lingo spoken by docs today;

Bones r bones whether formed of plastic, metal, calcium compound or cartilage. Right!!!!



Many CARTILAGE bones r formed before muscles r wraped. These r called "Long Bones" or "Endochondral Bones". Like Femur(Thigh Bone), Tibia & Fibula(Shin Bones), Humerous(Arm Bone), Radius & Ulna(Bones in Forearm), Hip-bones.

Cartilage-Bones look exactly like bones, only material they r made of does NOT have calcium yet.

Then these cartilage bone models r CALCIFIED & calcium compound called Hydroxy Appetite deposits in them so final calcified-bones r formed.


While there r some bones that r formed at same time muscles r formed & NOT after muscles. These r called "flat bones" or "Membranous Bones". Like Vertebrae, scapula.

So if u believe that only calcified bones deserve to be called as "BONES" & cartilage bones don't deserve it. So that'd be taking sides unjustly.

So Quran refer to BONES made of cartilage.

lol...

may i ask what was the funny part.?

Have a look at this video and notice "the microscopic level" .. they need to update their info. anyhow because that was an old issue.

i don't have good speed internet to watch videos, so could u explain video a bit ??? i mean what's the conclusion from video.

Thx.

They concluded the Quran is in perfect ahrmony with the modern science. what a shock, ain't it?
Otherwise, they basically said what you said about cartilage bones and tissue. However, they omited the "flat bones"...
Oh, they also quoted Keith L. Moore.....

Thx.

Book of Keith L. Moore r taught to medical students in med schools all over world. He's an authority on embryology. He teaches in Canada i think.

He may be, his (and one other guy's) anatomy book is supposed to be the most popuar of all the anatomy books in the world.
I don't know whether he is an authority in the field of embryology. The video quotes his book saying the bones get their familiar shape in the seventh week whereupon the muslces take there position around the bone forms. This is a simple, general explanation, Moore mostly writes text books, which might be the cause for it. And the text omits membranous bones, it doesn't say the bones are not actual bones, as tehy do not have calcium yet...

why should the Quran get into such a specific on embryology or any other field for that matter? It is meant to ask you to reflect not memorize multiple tissues derived from all three germ layers for your board exams.
Come on, that is absurd...
I don't particularly care to dwell on the science of the Quran, the poetry of the Quran, the numerology of the Quran, the rules of grammar in the Quran, the biblical stories in the Quran, the prophetic signs of the Quran, the laws of inheritance in the Quran, the rules of economics in the Quran, how to establish a Govt. in the Quran.. then you'll have missed the point of what it is all about. It is meant as a guidance and a counsel for how you should live your life.. and it does it on many levels.. it need not be any more clear or any more vague than what it is. There will be those completely satsifed with the book and there will be those who always want to split hair..

I think that too is part of its intrigue, as their are verses to denote some will indeed question 'what did God want with that allegory'?..
each will make of it what he/she will.. and there will come the day when we shall all find out the truth, one way or the other..

peace