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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 23 Reputation: 30 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Gender: | The western non-Muslim – both historians and intellectuals are at loss to prove that Islam was spread - not by PEACEFUL MEANS but by SWORD. Allow me to expose this Jewish Myth in detail: Islam comes from the root word ‘salaam’, which means peace. It also means submitting one’s will to Allah. Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one’s will to the will of the Supreme Creator. Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice. The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" -: "History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated." Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the Christian and Jew SERFS (Slaves) to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out over five million Muslims and Jews. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the Adhan. Muslims were the lords of Arabia for a long time. For a few century the British and the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 20 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian. Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?" The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man’s head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can." Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam - Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? |
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| Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 3,571 Reputation: 16416 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Assalam alaikum, Rehmat that was a great reply to this common 'misconceptions'. I have come across this answer before. One of Dr. Zakir Naik's I believe. He is a great scholar indeed |
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| Allahu Akbar Status: Offline Posts: 44 Reputation: 18 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: | Quote:
the moslim conquered large area's in europe in a short period the people became Muslim not by force of the sword but by the appeal of the new religion. i wonder if you can say the same about the Crusaders that killed millions of muslims and jews, or the russia's that killed thousands of mulims while the world watched and still turned a blind eye to it. one thing that most people don't know is that moslims were known for their scientific research and they established relation with other western scientist to slove problems that faced them at that time. examples: Western Europeans learned their algebra from the works of the Arab mathematician Muhammed ibn Musa al-Khowarizmi. The word, algebra, is a corruption of al-jabr which is part of the title of his treatise, Hisab al-jabr w'al muqabalah which means something like, "the science of reunion and reduction".without this fital information the world would have been not as we know it The Abbasids, who succeeded the Umayyads, shifted the capital to Baghdad which soon developed into an incomparable center of learning and culture as well as the administrative and political heart of a vast world. there is too much to say, this is just a brief summary. for more information visit http://www.barkati.net/english/#09 . i wonder what is meant by DARK AGES ? | |
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| LI Legend. Status: Offline Posts: 3,313 Reputation: 18489 Rep Power: 50 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Leicester Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | BOOOYAH!
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''If you only have love for your own race. You only leave space to discriminate. When you discriminate, it only generates hate. And when ya hate, ya bound to get irate'' | |
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| Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 5,161 Reputation: 13017 Rep Power: 45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | One ayah is sufficient to refute the myth that islam was spread by the sword:
__________________![]() 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. Muslims cannot convert people by force, hence we find it useless to try! Any historical examination of events is actually secondary to this verse. And of course we can use statistics like Islam is the fastest growing religion in America. Where are the muslims with swords in america?!?! |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 2,104 Reputation: -2160 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Undisclosed | Quote:
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So force has to be used sometimes. To fight oppression. What does that oppression consist of? Would it consist of, perhaps, polytheism? Is that a form of oppression? Would it consist of, say, refusing to let Muslims preach in non-Muslim countries? Who defines this oppression? Can you think of a single case in the entire history of the Muslim world where Muslims fought non-Muslims, and won, but where Islamic scholars condemned the Muslims for starting a war unjustly where there was no oppression etc? Quote:
Maududi is clear on this: as he points out, when Muhammed was in Mecca and only preached he coverted very few people. Once he moved to Medina and picked up the sword, he converted thousands. Do you agree that the use of force in Medina was vital to the growth of Islam? Quote:
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| Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 252 Reputation: 98 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Sikh | Land was conquered by the sword, then islam was used as a weapon against the non-believers, approah the study this way and you will understand alot more. |
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| Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 5,161 Reputation: 13017 Rep Power: 45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | |
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| Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 252 Reputation: 98 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Sikh | What they did in the name of islam: http://www.punjab2000.com/Martyrdom.html WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED. ISDhillon |
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| the servant of God Status: Offline Posts: 470 Reputation: 1062 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I, as a Bosnian and European, am proud of being a "product of Jihad", in the sense that I'm a Muslim today because Muslims conquered Bosnia. The Muslims conquered Bosnia and let the people stay Christians. However, a lot of the people in Bosnia became Muslims including my ancestors.
__________________Islam started out with the Prophet salallahu 'alayhi wa sallam, Khadeejah, Abu Bakr, 'Ali may God be pleased with them, and spread all the way to Bosnia. I'm very proud of this. Muslims don't wage Jihad to get oil or because of racism like some did/still do. Jihad is to make God's word supreme. |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 2,104 Reputation: -2160 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Undisclosed | Although would you agree that a fair number of Muslims managed to acquire a fair amount of wealth along the way?
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Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
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