Salam Alaikum:

Dsfas...what is with the attitude? Had you been part of this thread earlier you would realize this member was banned AFTER Islam-truth made his post. There is no need to call a brother an idiot.....especially when it comes back to bite you. Please show a little more respect and tact when you're posting.

Also, had you seen PrisonerofJoy's post, which you didn't because it was edited long ago, you would have understood what akulion was saying.

If you're looking for the most common anti-Islamic sites, I can only recommend you do what most of us have already done to be better prepared to respond to such comments.....research the net.

Since the originator of this topic has been banned, which I personally think was not the best option, this thread is now closed anyway.

I apologize if I offended anyone.

May Allah, swt, continue to guide us all. Ameen

Wa'alaikum salam
Hana

Erm, yes actually, it is.

Nope, because one can see the source of the image. It's not plagiarism if you cite the source - it's a reference. Plagiarism is where you try to pass off someone else's work as your own.

Try Private messaging a mod since posting links to such sites are against the forum rules.

I know what plagiarism is. I'm talking about hotlinking. Why isn't that against the rules?

Hotlinking could possibly land you in more trouble than copying and pasting content from the internet.

Hotlinking an image can/is considered bandwidth theft. Now this website (islamicboard.com) is stealing bandwidth from another website (cleanstream.net)

Not only is this bandwidth theft, but if the hotlinked site (cleanstream.net) were to run out of bandwidth, the owner of that website could simply check to see where his bandwidth went. This website would show up as stealing bandwidth.

If that situation were to arise, the owner of this website (islamicboard.com) is subject to theft charges and Denial of Service, which is very very serious. Denial of Service violations such as this one could result in up to six months in prison or up to a 10,000 dollar fine.


So, hotlinking is allowed, but copy/paste isnt? Funny.

Yup - but thats a totally different topic.

Plus thats a rule on the site, so if you find some sort of rule which doesn't allow this site, from the cleanstream.net servers - then please tell us about it.


Now lets stick to the topic.

PrisonerofJoy has only been temporarily banned for 3 days, after which he will be allowed back on to this site. The reason for this was his constant evasion of debate by copying articles from other websites.

Seeing as we do not seem to have anything beneficial to discuss in his absence, this thread shall be closed until there is a need for its re-opening, Insha'Allaah.

:: TRINITY AND THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST ::


"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.";

Most Christians believe that: “The three persons are co-equal and co-eternal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotenet”. (The Catholic encyclopedia)

::Facts about the trinity::

This text does not appear in the most ancient greek manuscripts.
It has been omitted from Revised Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, New English Bible, Phillips Modern English Bible.
The Scholars of Christianity say this verse was interpolated into the text around late 4th century.

Dr. C.I. Schofield and 32 other Scholars backed assisted by a committee of representatives of fifty co-operative denominations came to the conclusion about this verse “It is generally agreed that this verse has no manuscript authority and has been inserted”

Another commentary of the Bible reads:

"The famous interpolation after "three witnesses" is not printed even in RSV, and rightly. It cites the heavenly testimony of the Father, the logos, and the Holy Spirit, but is never used in the early trinitarian controversies. No respectable Greek MS contains it. Appearing first in a late 4th-cent. Latin text, it entered the Vulgate and finally the NT of Erasmus." (Peakes commentary of the Bible)

The historian Edward Gibbon coined it as a "Pious Fraud" in his famous history book `Decline and Fall of Roman Empire'.

The Qur’an says

يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لاَ تَغْلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمْ

O people of the Scripture, do not go to extremes in your religion

إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللّهِ إِلاَّ الْحَقِّ وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ

وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ

and don’t say anything about God but the truth. Indeed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary is a Messenger of God And His word given to Mary and a spirit from Him

إِنَّمَا اللّهُ إِلَـهٌ وَاحِدٌ انتَهُواْ خَيْراً لَّكُمْ وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ ثَلاَثَةٌ فَآمِنُواْ بِاللّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ

So believe in Allah and His Messenger and don’t say three Desist this will be better for you Verily Allah is one God

سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ لَّهُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَات وَمَا فِي الأَرْضِ وَكَفَى بِاللّهِ وَكِيلاً

Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that he should have a son . His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth . And Allah is sufficient as Defender. (Qur’an 4:171)

The Qur’an also says

They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O children of Israel! Worship Allah my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah Allah will forbid him the garden and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. 5:72.



لَّقَدْ كَفَرَ الَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّ اللّهَ ثَالِثُ ثَلاَثَةٍ وَمَا مِنْ إِلَـهٍ إِلاَّ إِلَـهٌ وَاحِدٌ وَإِن لَّمْ
يَنتَهُواْ عَمَّا يَقُولُونَ لَيَمَسَّنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِنْهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ

They surely disbelieve who say : Lo! Allah is the third of three ; when there is no God save the One God . If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve .