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I found the hadeeth last night!

‘The Prayed one of the ‘Isha prayed in his last days and after finishing it with Tasleem, he stood up and said, “Do you realise (the importance of) this night? Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight would be living after the completion of one hundred years from this night.”
[Al Bukhari, Vol.1, Book 10, No. 575]

I feel like i'm following in the footsteps of shaykh al-Albaanee... searching for days and days for a single hadeeth.
Wa Aleykum Salam Wa Rhametullahi Wa Berekatu,

MashaAllah!!!!!!! I had no clue it was in Bukhari.
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...we're going off-topic.

Amirah and Mawaddah... this is a cry for help. Please teach us! Next question please.
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From what I understand, Munqati' can be used in a general sense and a specific sense. In its specific sense it refers to any type of break in the chain, apart from mursal, mu'allaq and mu'dhal. However, in its general sense, it refers to any break in the chain.

This is what I learnt from Yasir Qadhi's talk. I might be wrong though.
Na'am that's it.

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Sheikh Uthaimeen mentions in his sharh (explanation) 4 types of The Munqati', State them all.
   
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Mursal

Mu'allaq

Mu'dhal

Mudallas

I'm not sure about the last one.
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This thread really does move slowwwwwwwww doesn't it?

Next question Insha Allah?
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Mursal

Mu'allaq

Mu'dhal

Mudallas

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Wa alaykum as salaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

Na'am that's correct.

Sorry for the late reply, I hadnt realised the asnwer was posted up.

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The definiton of Al-Mu'dhal?
   
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Mu'dhal: When two consecutive people are missing in the isnaad.
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Ahsanti..

Hmm whats the next set of poems..

Quote:
Wa Mu'adhalus saaqid minuthnaani ** wa maa ataa mudalassun naw'aani.

Al awwalul isqaati lish-shakykhi wa an ** yunqalu 'amman fawqahuu bi'an wa an

wath-thaaniy la yusqiduhu laakin yasif ** awsaafahuu bimaa bihii laa yan'arif


(Imma post that in proper arabic when i get home inshaAllah)

Mu'adhal is that from which two narrators ommited,
And Mudallas has bene narrated in two ways;

The first is an ommision of the shiekh and then
attributing it to one above him saying "according to".. or "that he said.."

The second is by not omiting him but rather by describing
him with charesterics for which is not known
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So the next question is in the second shatr of the poem & beyond;

What is Mudallas (it's definiton) and state the different types of tadlees?

Give an example.

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I think linguistically tadlees means 'hiding the defect of a product from the purchaser'. But in mustalah it's basically when you try to improve the appearance of the hadeeth’s isnaad. There are three types:

Tadlees at-Tajweed/at-Tasweeyah: This is where a later narrator of a hadeeth fails to mention the name of a weak narrator who comes between two reliable narrators, who have both met each other (so there is a chance that they could have reported from each other), which gives the appearance that the chain of narrators are all thiqqah. While in fact, the thiqqah reporter heard it from a weak reporter. So in this way, the chain would be considered Da’eef.

The word 'an is often used between the two reliable narrators, which is similar to 'he quoted".

Tadlees al-Isnaad: This is where the narrator quotes from someone something that he had heard from him indirectly, but uses ambiguous language (like 'an) to hide the fact that he actually heard it indirectly. He might simply say things like: “So and so said…”

Just quickly searching, I found out that there are a number of definitions given by earlier scholars:

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--The narrator reports from his teacher [whom he has heard some hadeeth from]

other hadeeth which he has not heard directly from his teacher;

but he has actually heard it through a third party –

and he uses an expression (such as Qaala: he said or ‘An: from)

which gives the impression – without actually saying it –

that he has heard it directly from his teacher.


--The narrator reports from a contemporary scholar [whom he may or may not have met]

Hadeeth which he did not hear from him,

Using an expression (such as Qaala: he said or ‘An: from so-and- so)

Giving the impression – without actually saying it –

That he has actually heard it directly from that contemporary scholar.

[Some scholars view this second definition as al-Mursal al-Khafee]
Tadlees al-shuyookh: This is where the narrator refers to his shaykh (or the person who he heard the hadeeth from) by a name,kunyah, title other than the one the sheikh is commonly known by, e.g. 'Abu Fulaan', yet no one knew him by that kunyah.

Do you want me to give you a real example, or make one up?
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I heard theres somali sisters here right. Just in case they dont know, these are salafy website in Somalis language.
www.maktabada.com
www.ahlulxadith.com
www.somalisalafi.com
www.qurancomplex.com

And the language is....funny
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Mmmm....searching knowledge when its hot ajee...when its cold, bubar semuaa... (Please translate ukhti Maw/naw)
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Is it possible to buy this book.
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Wa alaykum as salaam,

I dont think its availabe for purchase in the west. However you can buy it online inshaAllah.

There are a few explanations to the book; One by Sheikh Uthaimeen rahimahullaah, Another by Sheikh Al-Halabee (or Al Hilaalee; thats slipped my mind I'll confirm it later).

For online purchase check this link inshaAllah:

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