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| An usual muslim Status: Offline Posts: 603 Reputation: 764 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Allahumma inni as'alukal jannah!!! Amin Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Im still trying to find out wether the kitab has been translated or not and my ustadh said hasnt been translated But seeing your answers guys, is it mustalahul hadith's book? Lets say if this book not translated yet, can I answer your questions using the other book? Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Woe unto the repudiators on that day! Wanna know more sunnah: Go to http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...do-u-know.html. No muslims can life without sunnah. |
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| Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,192 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Princess I scanned you a few pages already right? Masha'allah Silver Pearl has already answered so perfectly, so give us the next question from the book okay? Oh and Btw, We are doing it Bayt by Bayt right? | |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,711 Reputation: 21065 Rep Power: 48 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I didnt know if this is just quotes from the 'book' so I didnt respond but it seems to be a free for all.
__________________Isnad or Sanad is linguistically something that props something up, within our discussion it is the chain of narration part of the hadith which informs those who took part in it's narration. A comment on the Isnad, Ibn Sireen who died in 110 tells us that people did not used to ask who narrated such and such until the fitnah, the fitnah being reffered to is disputed but of course it would have to be a fitnah before his death. So we know that after that fitnah then people demanded to know, but this does not tell us that before the fitnah people didnt ask or people didnt name the narrators, but rather, that before the fitnah it was not as necccesary but after the people really started the early task of testing the chain of narration. Hadith, linguisiticall is news or something new information, it is meanly used to refer to the Prophet's speech or actions or tacid approvals. I do not know the isnads mainly cos the english writers do not write them!! Argh!! إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. |
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| Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,192 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
This thread is about Mustalah, but we are following the book which is like considered to be the 'beginners guide' to Mustalah, so there will be referrals to particular sentences etc. in the Book, but insha'allah even those who dont have it can participate So... Since we are going to be analyzing the book Verse by Verse of this Poem, I will post up the verses which we have already studied: أَبدَأُ بِالْحَمْدِ مُصَلِّياً عـــــــــــــــــــــــــَلَى وذِي مِنْ أَقْسَامِ الحَدِيثِ عــــــــــــــِدَّة أَوَّلُها الصَّحيحُ وهْوَ ما اتَّصــــــــــــــــلْ يرْوِيهِ عَدْلٌ ضَابطٌ عَنْ مــِثــــــــــــلهِ The ones in Red are the Ones being Questioned right now. Sis Silver Pearl already gave the Definition of the meaning of one who is Dhaabit masha'allah as :One with an excellent memory who recalls things with great accuracy. . So now the Question is : How many types of 'Dhaabit' are there? And the explanation of them please. | |
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| Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 7,311 Reputation: 18127 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 16°53'39.06"N 43°48'5.35"E Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
There are two types of Adh-dhabt: -Dhabt Kitaab.. - & Dhabt Sadr. Dhabt as-Sadr (precision/preservance of the chest) is when the narrator memorises and portects whatever he hears and he can bring it forth whenever he wills. and Dhabtul-Kitaab is to protect the book his narrations in his book from the time he wrote until he passes it on, and not to pas it on to someone who will not protect it or distort it in any way, it is also possible for this person to change somethings around. Hope i have'nt missed anythin out InshaAllah... Next question people , based on this part of the poem: Quote:
Allah Ma'akum! btw: nice to see so many participants MashaAllah. | ||
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| An usual muslim Status: Offline Posts: 603 Reputation: 764 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Allahumma inni as'alukal jannah!!! Amin Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Naam, linguistically hasan means good, or in Indo its name of my neighbour Next question: "What is the definition of hadith hasan li dhaatihi and li ghairihi? Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Woe unto the repudiators on that day! Wanna know more sunnah: Go to http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...do-u-know.html. No muslims can life without sunnah. | |
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| Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,192 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Masha'allah Princess!! Baarakallahu Feeki BTw I didn't get to scan the rest of the book to you, I was in a rush Okay peoples, answer!! I'm off Princess |
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| Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,192 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
But just to let you know that we are not just asking random Mustalah questions, We're asking according to the order of the Book. amirah_87 already gave the next Question | |
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| An usual muslim Status: Offline Posts: 603 Reputation: 764 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Allahumma inni as'alukal jannah!!! Amin Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Ups.....the example???.......Mmmmm...I dont remember
__________________ Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Woe unto the repudiators on that day! Wanna know more sunnah: Go to http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...do-u-know.html. No muslims can life without sunnah. |
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 903 Reputation: 12165 Rep Power: 36 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wahid minan naas Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Hasan means good, beautiful in terms of it linquistically. Ad-Dahabi stated the following as to what hasan hadeeth is: " A hassan is a hadith which excels daif but, nevertheless, does not reach the standard of sahih hadeeth.” But it is agreed on that in order for a hadeeth to be classed as hasan it must not have any irregularities. Malik, Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi and al-Hakim reported “A single rider is a devil (disobedient), two riders are two devils, but three makes a travelling party.” The reason this hadeeth is considered hasan is because its isnad falls short for a saheeh hadeeth and thus can not be classified to the level of saheeh whilst it is above daeef. Wa allahu'3llim إن العين لتدمع، وإن القلب ليحزن، ولا نقول إلا ما يرضي ربَّنا "The eyes shed tears and the heart feels sadness, but we only say that which pleases our Lord" | |
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| Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,192 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
A Hadeeth whose chain of narration is joined by the narration of one who is 'Adl but of a lesser level of Dhabt (precision)from one like him, and it (the chain) is without irregularites and faults. Quote:
The reason why the Isnaad of this hadeeth is Hasan is because in it is Dhimaam bin Ismaa'eel. An-Nasaa'i said concerning him : Laa ba'sa bihi (He is not bad) Al-Haafidh ibn Hajar said concerning him : Sadooq wa rubbama Akhta' (Trustworthy, but May have made some mistakes) Abi Haatim said : Sadooq Muta'3abbid (Trustworthy and a devout worshipper) So if someone like him appears in a hadeeth, it does not cause the hadeeth to become weak, but it does cause the hadeeth to have a lower status than Saheeh. Okay next question!: وكلُّ ما عَن رُتْبَةِ الحُسْنِ قَصــــــــُر فهو الضّعِيفُ وهْوَ أَقْسَاماً كُثرْ This verse is concerning the Dha'eef (weak) hadeeth, So what is the definition of a weak Hadeeth and an example of a weak hadeeth please? ___________________________________________ Princess I am SOOOOOOOOOOO going to get you | ||
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