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i am wondering what it is your advice, brothers and sisters, for someone who seeks knowledge. what i mean is, is that both the male and female seeker of knowledge may have trouble seeking knowledge, or atleast setting thier own timetable to seek knowledge. As for the sister, she will most likely to get married and have kids, therefore she will be looking after her husband, the house, and their kids. And as for the brother, chances will be that he will have a 9-5 job, which means he would have to get up early to prepare to go to work, and by the time he gets back from work, he will be too tired.

so, how do the brothers and sisters who want to seek knowledge do so, when they have such responsibilities??

   
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i am wondering what it is your advice, brothers and sisters, for someone who seeks knowledge. what i mean is, is that both the male and female seeker of knowledge may have trouble seeking knowledge, or atleast setting thier own timetable to seek knowledge. As for the sister, she will most likely to get married and have kids, therefore she will be looking after her husband, the house, and their kids. And as for the brother, chances will be that he will have a 9-5 job, which means he would have to get up early to prepare to go to work, and by the time he gets back from work, he will be too tired.

so, how do the brothers and sisters who want to seek knowledge do so, when they have such responsibilities??



you can work 7a-5p and still have time to seek knowledge, even if you take the time to attend all 5 prayers at the Masjid! [i'm speaking from experience here, PLUS i have a new wife that requires attention!]

step 1, give up TV!! only use your TV to watch Islamic videos.

step 2, cds, give up your nasheeds or anything else and use the cd player to listen to some lectures. i have been listening to Mufti Ismail Menk for almost a year now, he's awesome! he gives lectures after Taraweeh that are simply outstanding. his Reasons of Revelation, based upon Asbab Un Nazool, is phenomenal! everyone who listens to it wants to get a copy. he always does some Tafseer and his English is excellant and his Arabic is VERY, VERY melodic. he is probably a Shafiite, but don't let that stop you, he is simply quite an inspiring speaker!

at times, you can get his stuff here:
http://www.simplyislam.com/iteminfo.asp?item=56660

but, this is the site of the company that make his stufff:
http://www.parexcellence.co.za/

step 3, ask you local Imam or Alims for recommendations of Tafseer in book form such as Ibn Kathir or the Mara'aful Qur'an.

step 4, read Seerah! anything that you can get your hands on, plus there is some stuff on the web, Qatadar posted this site last year:
http://www.pleasantviewschool.com/me...t%20%28pbuh%29

the site also has other Islamic history on it that is done really well.

step 5, don't spend so much time in forums!

basically, give up "crap" that doesn't improve your deen! make seeking knowledge your full time occupation.

if you get married, only marry someone who get all the things that you need to accomplish the above!
[my wife agrees with all of this! ]

just some thoughts...

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there are some really good point
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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 09-02-2007

it's not easy to squeeze everything in a day.
maybe it would be helpful to set aside some time every day for learning and stick to it.
a half hour would be good - even 15 mins. is better than nothing. at first it will be difficult to stay with it, but the longer you do it, the easier it will become. select an area of special interest to start out with - that will make it easier too.
you have a whole lifetime of learning ahead of you!
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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 09-06-2007

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i am wondering what it is your advice, brothers and sisters, for someone who seeks knowledge. what i mean is, is that both the male and female seeker of knowledge may have trouble seeking knowledge, or atleast setting thier own timetable to seek knowledge. As for the sister, she will most likely to get married and have kids, therefore she will be looking after her husband, the house, and their kids. And as for the brother, chances will be that he will have a 9-5 job, which means he would have to get up early to prepare to go to work, and by the time he gets back from work, he will be too tired.

so, how do the brothers and sisters who want to seek knowledge do so, when they have such responsibilities??


1. Get rid of the Television! (I mean - pull the plug...)

2. Use prayer time like - after Fajr... or Before Magrhib... (Prayer should replace all your usual habits of relaxation...)

During the Morning Athan... we hear the muazzin say - Asalaatu kairunmin annawm.... which means- prayer is better than sleep. There is a scientific discovery that truly - the Fajr Prayer is indeed good for ones health... Try it and make it a habit... you will be surprised how much revitalized you physical energy is. I am aware many Muslims donot perform this very important prayer... but it is written in the Quran.. Allah loves those who perform Ibadah and Fajr prayers... because, there is more effort exerted here and the rewards are double, you can perform the other prayers a bit later than on time... but not the Fajr nor the Ibadah... which is between 1 to 3 AM... and while at it... you can read to further widen your knowledge.

3. If there's a will... there's always a way. I have a 16 hour job... daily... and I have my Qur'an in front of me.... there is no reason for me not to read it during my free time... I dont see any reason why you can't.

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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 09-11-2007

thanx for yall advice, jazakallah khair!
   
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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 09-23-2007

i believe its very possible but it takes patience and perseverence cz its not easy.u have to plan ur tym well and avoiiid tym wasting for you to achieve and suceeeeeed in ur pursuits of ilm.
   
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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 11-04-2007

become more organised not just in ur work but wat times prayers are and dat.
and when da husbed comes home he can read a bit of quran before he goes to bed.
that way u can make ur u dont get sucked in the trap of dis dua, remember allah and never forget dis life is a just a test, for us to get to our true destination.
   
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Default Re: For the knowledge seeker. - 11-07-2007

good topic, this what i was looking for. up
   
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good advices bro.
   
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good advices bro.

I agree! ^
   
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I still use your advice bro. Thanks
   
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I am now tested more with my faith....

I went home again to my country which is not really a halal place.

I am married to a Christian wife who simply made extra marital affairs behind my back while I was gone for 1 and a half year.

I wanted to kill her for what she did. But I was thinking about the overall good of the family as a whole... especially my innocent daughter... so I made a more mature approach.

Praying 5 times A Day became a real challenge now more than ever.

But I manage praying the Fajr and the Ibadah.... perhaps this made me stronger and more able to handle the situation.

I already forgave my wife for her sins... but I told her that I want to punish her still.

I told her I need to hit her with a stick... but I dont know how many times?

I told her that I cannot allow her to leave or commit suicide because she is still the mother of my daughter... and my daughters paradise in at the feet of my unclean wife. if she did commit suicide... it will still be not enough payment for the damage she has done.

SO I told her, she still has a lot of work in the family household. So she has to stick it up with me and deal with it.

I think her conscience is bothering her which also results to her mild bipolar attacks.

I told her to wash her extremeties and ask God for protection against the evils of Satan and his cohorts.

She did it anyhow... and I hope that she is doing this for good.

I am afraid she is very unstable and will easily slip back into her old ways.

How many times should I hit her?...

She agrees to be punished anyway.

Bros and Sis... now is the time for me to ask your advice.

I am devastated inside.



And even if you were allowed to hit her with a stick bro how do you think its going to change her? Would you have to hit her every week so that she gets the right dosage?

Think about what your are saying.

Assalamu Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh,

I agree with Akhee Al Habeshi,

Here is some information from IslamQA

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With regard to hitting one’s wife, this is not the first choice of ways to discipline her. First of all one should exhort and advise her. If that does not work, then (the husband) should forsake her in bed [i.e., not have conjugal relations with her]. If that does not work, then he may hit her, but not severely, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning);

“As to those women on whose part you see ill‑conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Great” [al-Nisaa’ 4:34].

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
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If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: this means that it should not cause pain.

‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbaas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator]

The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.
Taken from >
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=41199&ln=eng
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=3347&ln=eng

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P.S Maybe the last 3 posts should be moved to a new thread, they seem a bit off topic, lol
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I am now tested more with my faith....

I went home again to my country which is not really a halal place.

I am married to a Christian wife who simply made extra marital affairs behind my back while I was gone for 1 and a half year.

I wanted to kill her for what she did. But I was thinking about the overall good of the family as a whole... especially my innocent daughter... so I made a more mature approach.

Praying 5 times A Day became a real challenge now more than ever.

But I manage praying the Fajr and the Ibadah.... perhaps this made me stronger and more able to handle the situation.

I already forgave my wife for her sins... but I told her that I want to punish her still.

I told her I need to hit her with a stick... but I dont know how many times?

I told her that I cannot allow her to leave or commit suicide because she is still the mother of my daughter... and my daughters paradise in at the feet of my unclean wife. if she did commit suicide... it will still be not enough payment for the damage she has done.

SO I told her, she still has a lot of work in the family household. So she has to stick it up with me and deal with it.

I think her conscience is bothering her which also results to her mild bipolar attacks.

I told her to wash her extremeties and ask God for protection against the evils of Satan and his cohorts.

She did it anyhow... and I hope that she is doing this for good.

I am afraid she is very unstable and will easily slip back into her old ways.

How many times should I hit her?...

She agrees to be punished anyway.

Bros and Sis... now is the time for me to ask your advice.

I am devastated inside.

brother how are you doing? you sounded like you were being tested by Allah (swt). know that he always has a plan for you..
   
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