That was a great post by Br. Noname
a shame he goes, yet worthless dissolute scum, who are completely unrestrained by convention or morality are allowed to leave such comments in my PM box..

COI(children of isreal) asked Eesa that who he knew of Ibraheem??? So he replied to them by saying that "Before Abraham was GOD", & God is the ONE who told Jesus(Eesa) about Abraham.

Like God told Prophet Muhammad About previous prophets.



It was same God that talked to Mosa:-
If “I AM” here refers to GOD of Moses:-
Exodus:3:14“And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”
Then it also refers to GOD(not Jesus) here:-JN 8:57“Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
John:8:58“Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily,I say unto you, Before Abraham was,I AM.”
Which means that before Abraham GOD was present & HE gave me(Jesus) knowledge of Abraham.

u may invite Christians to watch video of Dr. Zakir Naik.

few lines from his lecture :

A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me".



In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary.



The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):


(i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]

(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]



http://video.aol.com/video-detail/fr...god/1396859027

This statemet is enough to know he was and what was his purpose in this world.

if anyone says "I seek not my own will but the will of my Father(God)" Equivalent of meaning of arabic word Muslim.
And prophet Jesus (Peace be upon Him) was a Muslim.

A sect of Muslims have invented a story which sttes that Mohammed (pbuh) said : "When Adam was in clay and water, I was there the messenger of Allah". It seems that the the worshipers of Jesus and Mohammed have received the virus from the same invented stories!

Allah says He is not father to any. Then why do you adduce such stories as evidences in which Allah is stated as Father of Jesus? Do they, who cite such stories, recognise that Jesus is son of Allah? Do Dr. Zakir Nayek, who often cites such verses, himself acknowledges that Jesus is the son of Allah?

God is father,God is son,God is holy spirit


Define:

god is father- meaning,God is father of universe,that he create his creation

god is son- for jesus christ born as a child without a dad in the womb of mary,Jesus is like a miracle to them, he can do miracle,so meaning God turning into Son...mean Jesus son of God,God is Son...Cause can be son and Father.so meaning it can transform to either one

God is Holy spirit..A holy spirit, is unseen...God transform back to Holy spirit...cause HE remain as himself....so Christian believe in trinity.



is like triangle!

even if this is an invented story , it did not make Muhammed (p) God or son of God . So , this is not the same virus

christian dont accept muhammad saw as prophet so they didnt mention that he son of God....!so that why what u mention....muslim woman.i agreed!

There are innumerable instances where Muslims deem Mohammed as a god or God's assistant. Instances are:

* They say Mohammed is omnipresent and all-hearing and they supplicate to him for intercession. Here they ascribe Allah's attributes to him.

* They say Mohammed manages the affairs of the earth from his grave. By this they ascribe the attributes of Alla to him.

* They often lie in their implication that Mohammed is the only friend of Allah. They also say Allah is pleased when His friend, that is Mohammed, is worshiped and He forgives the sins of the worshipers.

* They say it is Allah's command to supplicate to all-hearing and omnipresent Mohammed for intercession.

* A sect of them say Mohammed is none but Allah Himself in human form as he is created from Allah's light.

So it is necessary for Muslims that they themselves be unitarians in their faith and worship.

never heard of that before. If it's true , may Allah guide them , Ameen.

Have you heard of the other stories?

If you and your mentor Dr. Nayek say that the qoted verses are not corrupt, that is they are truly the words of Jesus, then it may be unequivoclly said that you agree to the statement that God is father of Jesus. So whoever quotes the said corrupt verses as true words of Jesus, he or she must be committing shirk and kufr in that Allah has clearly said in the Quran that He is not father to any, nor has He any parent.

You have to save yourself from the harm of Dr. Nayek's speeches for fame. He should take reason and shun preaching shirk and kufr through quotation of corrupt, biblical verses.

nuh. These verses are for Christians to understand that God is greater than ALL including Jesus (p) & holy Spirit (p).

with due respect , I totally disagree with you.
Dr. Naik is an excellent speaker . I am sure , his lecture has removed many minconceptions against Islam , Jesus (p) , God already. Not only Muslims , but many non-Muslims also learnt many things from him.

it's a common belief in my country that when we offer darud , angels take that darud to the Prophet (p) . Yes , many believe Allah will accept the dua / will allow the Prophet (p ) on the last day to intercession for Muslims . Some believe he is made of light of Allah but these concepts are not making him equal to God.


Fortunately here no one believes ( to
my knowledge ) that Mohammed (p) is none but Allah Himself in human form . Astagfirullah.

May Allah forgive us all & show us all the right path , Ameen.