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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-12-2006



The muhrimah should not uncover her face or hands in front of non-mahram men using the excuse that the niqaab and gloves are among the things that are forbidden in ihraam, because they can cover their faces and hands with anything such as their clothes, scarves, etc. Umm al-Mu’mineen ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam. When they came alongside us we would lower our jilbaabs from our heads over our faces, and when they had passed by we would uncover them.” Narrated by Abu Dawood and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.

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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-12-2006

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check out the ayat number 59 of surah al-ahzaab, ayat number 55 of surah al-ahzaab, ayat number 31 of surah al-noor....... so u will make urselv clear .... and when it comes to this that y is it not allowed for a muslim women to let a cloth touch her face .....u cant ask y ?? itz just a rule of shariah ..and secondly i m not aware of the reason ...of it .....i just learned and know and have done ....this that itz compulsory for a muslim women to cover her face by hanging a cloth over her face and when it comes to this hadith narrated by hazrat ayesha (ra) just look into the explanation it clearly sayz that yes she did hide her face when she passed by a non-mehram but she used to lower her jilbab...by lowering it, the cloth dint touched her face .....
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yes sis but is there any proof that the cloth cant touch the face?
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-22-2006

Actually if we look at the hadeeth saying that it's haram for women to cover the face you will see that Rasululllah used the word "Niqaab".
Niqaab in Arabic means a cloth pulled close around the face hence touching it, which is why it can be said when a man wears his Imaamah around his face that he is putting "Niqaab" across his face.
So the Ulama who say that you should cover your face whilst making Hajj with a loose piece of cloth say this because they said that Rasululllah only stated "niqaab" and didn't say "do not cover"

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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-23-2006



jazakAllah khair sis. so umm does that mean the cloth covering the face cant touch the face?
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-23-2006



Shaykh Isam Rajab said the following:

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Regarding the face covering for women some scholars said that it's permissible to cover the face if there are men based on the incident of Aisha Radiallahu Anha where she said that she used to cover her face once men passed by.
I don't believe it's permissible for women to cover their faces as the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam said: "The woman is not to put her niqab on during Ihram".
So here's a hadith from the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam Vs. an action of Aisha Radiallahu Anha and we're commanded to follow the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam.
Also, the famous story of Al Fadl Ibn Abbas Radiallahu Anhuma and the woman who asked the Messenger Sallallahualaihi wasallam. The Prophet Sallallahualaihi Wasallam would've told her cover your face instead of turing the face of Al Fadl several times!
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-24-2006



jazakAllah khair ive asked on islamtoday and ill root out the book to make sure i read right

the thing quoted. well, im not sure i agree with that logic. i see it more as
Ayesha RA understanding of what Muhammed said Vs the understanding above.
and we know Ayesha RA is one of the greatest muftis of this ummah and very knowledgable in deen and understanding.
because Muhammed didnt reprimand the women from lowering their scarves over their faces which would have happened if face covering wasnt allowed

anyhow i gues theres difference of opinion. ill post the answer inshaAllah when i get
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got my answer

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Al-Salam `Alaykum wa Rahmah Allah wa Barakatuh.



There is no problem at all if the cover, niqab, touches the womans face.



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Who is he? Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhab al-Turayri
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-26-2006



well hes from the site islamtoday.com headed by sheikh salman bin fahd al awda

i checked on islamqa it says the same thing.

and the book i was on about yh it is the book on hajj b the permanent commity of saudi arabia pls sheikh muhammed bin saleh al uthaimin..and it said the same thing
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got my answer

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Al-Salam `Alaykum wa Rahmah Allah wa Barakatuh.



There is no problem at all if the cover, niqab, touches the womans face.



Fatwa Department Research Committee of IslamToday chaired by Sheikh `Abd al-Wahhab al-Turayri


Isn’t that contradictory to the hadeeth narrated about women not being allowed to wear the niqaab during ihram.

Also like the Shaykh stated, it is a matter of following what the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said and the action of Aysha (May Allah be pleased with her).


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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 06-27-2006

Sis read Mawaddah's last post in this thread. I think that clears it up.
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 10-22-2006

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YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

isnt this verse addressing wives and daughters of prophet only.

arent the wives of prophet have strict laws copare w ith other common muslim e.g.they cant marry after Prophet's death,punishment will be double than general etc.

what is the meaning of "they shouldnt be kno wn" and why the word molestation metioned here.
   
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Default Re: Niqâb during Hajj! - 10-22-2006

what I mean in the abov is the order in which the women addressed..
I ve heard the order of words too have importance.
   
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