Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah

Ramlah · **Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 11-17-2007

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Is kissing the Holy Ka’bah during the rituals of Hajj or ‘Umrah halaal or haraam?.

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Praise be to Allaah.

What is prescribed is to kiss the Black Stone. It was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kissed the Black Stone, but he did not kiss any other part of the Holy Ka’bah.

And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. End quote.

Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas

Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz, Shaykh ‘Abd al-Razzaaq ‘Afeefi, Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Ghadyaan.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta (11/228, 229).

- Serene - · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

Nothing is wrong in Kissing the Kabah if u want to.

IbnAbdulHakim · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

^ dont speak against a sheikhs fatwa from your own words. If you wish to say something against it prove your proof!

if only you knew the harms of the smallest misguidance from the sunnah...

listen to this:

http://www.salafitapes.com/index.php...=569&Itemid=71

- Serene - · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

Why do people exaggerate over one lil thing?!?! Next ur gonna say its bidah to kiss the Qur'aan...puh-lease...

IbnAbdulHakim · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

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Originally Posted by - Brok3n -

Why do people exaggerate over one lil thing?!?! Next ur gonna say its bidah to kiss the Qur'aan...puh-lease...

http://www.salafitapes.com/index.php...=569&Itemid=71

- Serene - · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

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Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

http://www.salafitapes.com/index.php...=569&Itemid=71

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544452

Da'watul-Allaah · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

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Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim

^ dont speak against a sheikhs fatwa from your own words. If you wish to say something against it prove your proof!

if only you knew the harms of the smallest misguidance from the sunnah...

listen to this:

http://www.salafitapes.com/index.php...=569&Itemid=71

Ahh dat was harsh *wak*, we are prone to making mistakes,

JazakAllah khair thread starter,

AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

We just have to be careful, sometimes we see something as a small issue or nothing wrong, and sometimes we maybe right, sometimes not, thats why it is best to follow the people of knowledge.

IbnAbdulHakim · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

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Originally Posted by Happy

Ahh dat was harsh *wak*, we are prone to making mistakes,
AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

what was harsh lol?

sis broken if the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallaam or the khulaafa ur-rashideen didnt do something then there is greater reward in following them

Asma Shaikh · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

Jazaikhair ! Sis. -the thread starter.

'Abd-al Latif · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-12-2008

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Originally Posted by - Brok3n -

Why do people exaggerate over one lil thing?!?! Next ur gonna say its bidah to kiss the Qur'aan...puh-lease...

Well it is bid'ah...

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To kiss the Qur'an and then place it between one's eyes is an act of worship, through which one seeks closeness to Allah (swt). And acts of worship only become legitimate when irrefutable proofs establish their foundations. There is no such proof for the practice in question, but we do have a proof that we do not have doubts about, in which the Prophet (saws) said,

"Whoever introduces into this affair of ours that which is not from it, it is rejected"

The Companions performed only those acts of worship that they learned from the Messenger of Allah (saw). When 'Umar (r.a) saw the Black Stone he said "You neither cause harm nor benefit, and had not the Messenger of Allah kissed you, I would not have kissed you". When Mu'aawiyah kissed all corners of the Ka'bah, Ibn 'Abbaas (r.a) reproached him for adding to the practice of the Prophet (saaws). And when Al-Musayyib saw a man performing much Rukoo' (bowing) and prostration after Fajr Prayer, he censured him. The man said "O Aba Muhammad, will Allah punish me for praying?" Ibn Musayyib said, "No, but for going against the Sunnah (which is to pray directly after Fajr prayer until after the sun rises)."

The Permanent Council (of Scholars in Saudi Arabia) said: We know of no proof that establishes the legislation of kissing the Nobal Qur'an, which was revealed to be recited, to be contemplated, and to be acted upon.

[Fatwa # 8852 (4/122)]

Reference: Book of Manners by Fu'ad 'Abdul-'Azeez Ash-Shuloob, Page 51-52. Chapter: Manners of Reciting the Qur'an.

- Serene - · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-13-2008

^ What's ur point?!

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544452

'Abd-al Latif · 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by - Brok3n -

^ What's ur point?!

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544452

Whereas yours is a view of a sheikh, my sources show the view of the sahaba themselves. If your only reason for posting is to argue, refute and debate then your waisting your time. Knowledge should bring about fear of Allah, not to busy one self with wordly issues.

w/salam

Al-Zaara · **Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah -** 05-13-2008

Once a non Muslim saw in an interviewa man, he was reading a book and kissed it afterwards. The non Muslim was left thinking what kind of book is this to have such a value that you want to kiss it? He looked it up, read and found the truth, elhamdulillah. Just that act of love made a big difference to someone.

We do not know of any evidence (daleel) to suggest that it is prescribed in sharee’ah to kiss it, but if a person does so, there is nothing wrong with that. It was narrated that the great Sahaabi ‘Ikrimah ibn Abi Jahl used to kiss the Mus-haf and say, “This is the word of my Lord.” Whatever the case, there is nothing wrong with kissing it, but it is not prescribed to do so and there is nothing to indicate that it is prescribed in sharee’ah. But if a person kisses it as an act of veneration and respect if it falls from his hand or from a high place, there is nothing wrong with that, in sha Allaah.

Source: Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), vol. 9, p. 289

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Imam an-Nawawi reported that when Ikrimah (may Allah be pleased with him) used to see the Holy Qur'an, he used to put it on his head and kiss it and show a great deal of respect for it, saying "This is the book of Allah, this is the book of Allah."
From this Imam as-Suyuti said it is good to kiss the Holy Qur'an, also drawing an analogy with the black stone in the Ka'bah. Both are to be seen as a gift from Allah.
Similarly, in the same way that we kiss our children to show affection and love, it is a sign of our devotion and love for Allah to kiss the Holy Qur'an.

'Abd-al Latif · 06:08 PM

*sigh*

Can you refer me to a book instead of copy and paste fatwa's? Anyone can shop for fatwas until you find that ounce of information that you suits you. I want to see more views on this because I refuse to blind follow, until then i'm not convinced.

Meanwhile, here is another thing i've found http://www.darassalaf.com/home/index...do_pdf=1&id=17

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,722 Reputation: 21052 Rep Power: 47 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah - 05-12-2008 We just have to be careful, sometimes we see something as a small issue or nothing wrong, and sometimes we maybe right, sometimes not, thats why it is best to follow the people of knowledge. __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.

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Al-Zaara LI's Hanafi Status: Offline Posts: 3,092 Reputation: 28354 Rep Power: 53 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Finland Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah - 05-13-2008 Once a non Muslim saw in an interviewa man, he was reading a book and kissed it afterwards. The non Muslim was left thinking what kind of book is this to have such a value that you want to kiss it? He looked it up, read and found the truth, elhamdulillah. Just that act of love made a big difference to someone. We do not know of any evidence (daleel) to suggest that it is prescribed in sharee’ah to kiss it, but if a person does so, there is nothing wrong with that. It was narrated that the great Sahaabi ‘Ikrimah ibn Abi Jahl used to kiss the Mus-haf and say, “This is the word of my Lord.” Whatever the case, there is nothing wrong with kissing it, but it is not prescribed to do so and there is nothing to indicate that it is prescribed in sharee’ah. But if a person kisses it as an act of veneration and respect if it falls from his hand or from a high place, there is nothing wrong with that, in sha Allaah. Source: Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), vol. 9, p. 289 - Imam an-Nawawi reported that when Ikrimah (may Allah be pleased with him) used to see the Holy Qur'an, he used to put it on his head and kiss it and show a great deal of respect for it, saying "This is the book of Allah, this is the book of Allah." From this Imam as-Suyuti said it is good to kiss the Holy Qur'an, also drawing an analogy with the black stone in the Ka'bah. Both are to be seen as a gift from Allah. Similarly, in the same way that we kiss our children to show affection and love, it is a sign of our devotion and love for Allah to kiss the Holy Qur'an. __________________ [Muslim-Network]

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'Abd-al Latif Stranger Status: Offline Posts: 405 Reputation: 3305 Rep Power: 11 Join Date: Jun 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kissing the Ka’bah is not prescribed in sharee’ah - 05-13-2008 sigh Can you refer me to a book instead of copy and paste fatwa's? Anyone can shop for fatwas until you find that ounce of information that you suits you. I want to see more views on this because I refuse to blind follow, until then i'm not convinced. Meanwhile, here is another thing i've found http://www.darassalaf.com/home/index...do_pdf=1&id=17 __________________ The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “Verily rifq (gentleness) does not exist in something, except that it beautifies it. And it is not taken out of something, except that it harms it.” [Related by Muslim (no. 2592)] http://memoirofasinner.blogspot.com/ Last edited by 'Abd-al Latif; 05-13-2008 at 06:08 PM.