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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 397 Reputation: 682 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | As-salamu alaykum
__________________please would somebody be able to translate this verse from Raza Khans Mustafa Jane Rehmat poem Ghaus e Azam Imam ut Tuqa wa n nuqa jalwehe shane qudrat pe lakhon salaam. wasalams |
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| . Status: Offline Posts: 4,344 Reputation: 16067 Rep Power: 48 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | wa alaikumusalaam It means "The Ghauth al-A'dham, who is Imaam of Taqwaa and Nuqaa - who has a might station, and power - be upon him many (lit. thousands) of salaams." Can I ask, why you asked for this? |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 397 Reputation: 682 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Thank you for that
__________________is this translation correct? Ghaus e Azam, Imam of saints and the pious, a million of salutations on him who was divine by nature. (Sirat ul Muslimin, Tahara Edition, pg.39) |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 397 Reputation: 682 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Sorry i didnt answer youre question
__________________What it is i have grew up in a brelvi community , married into a brelvi family and have been standing in respect for the Holy Prophet saws every friday whilst they recite this poem i now label 'the brelvi anthem' howver i stopped doing it because to tell you the truth i have really had it up to my teeth with pakistani Muslims forcing their culture upon me. so i decided to stop doing that because i thought i dont have to sing an urdu naat every friday to respect the Prophet saws, there are other ways. In result of this they started labelling me ******e and making fun out of me so i decided to study a few things, i have asked again and again to brelvi urdu speakers to translate the poem but they all say their urdu is too poor to transalte it and that the urdu contained in the poem is tooo rich. However today i was flicking through a brelvi magazine and it gave this translation for one of the verse and i was like WHAAAT!!!!! Ghaus e Azam, Imam of saints and the pious, a million of salutations on him who was divine by nature. (Sirat ul Muslimin, Tahara Edition, pg.39) So if it says what it says im no longer praying behing their Imams Wasalams |
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| . Status: Offline Posts: 4,344 Reputation: 16067 Rep Power: 48 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Your translation is somewhat similar. Before I say anything, I am not a barelwi, nor am I a barelwi supporter but a few things should be made clear. Because it is a translation, you have to analyse each word. Find out what was meant, what was intended, what are they referring to and then issue some conclusion. It would not be wise for us to be judge, jury and executioner on the first translated line. |
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| Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 20,487 Reputation: 52996 Rep Power: 110 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cyberabad Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | btw... who wrote tht "anthem" ? it seems all praise n salaams being sent to Ahmed raza khan ONLY. :brother: Quote:
how is it "in respect for the Prophet saws" ? its all praises for the Berelwi founder... not prophet saws | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 105 Reputation: 159 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | ask on this barelwi forum: http://www.***********/forum/
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| Busy Status: Offline Posts: 1,253 Reputation: 2717 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | i have heard and it and there was time when i also use to recite it after Friday prayer but they didn't use those words of "Gous e Azam" This is a kind of love and respect they show to Hazarat Muhammad(S.A.W) and the same way they do other things like kissing their thum and touching them to their eye when their hear the name of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) and what they explain is this act is of Hazarat Adam when he was shown the pic of Prophet Muhammad(S.A.W) on his thum and that was love so this is also love when i say to my family that their is better way of expressing love and affection to Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) by saying Darood and their is a Hadith too on it but a long debate they do it ......... and now they call me too ******e ... i don't know why they go after what their parents did but not go after the sunnah May Allah Give show them the right Path |
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| Paranoid Android Status: Offline Posts: 461 Reputation: 1040 Rep Power: 25 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester/Leicester Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | What are you ethnically speaking?
__________________ You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else We are all part of the same compost heap We are the all singing, all dancing, **** of the world |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 3 Reputation: 10 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: U.s.a Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Have you read the poem akhi? Here are some translated verses. Quote:
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| dOnKeY pOwEr Status: Offline Posts: 1,734 Reputation: 1784 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a Council Skip...plz dont tell them! Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | My Husband joined that Forum Ya Nabi to question these people about thier knowledge and why they followed the "Belvri Crew" and instead he got banned personally Bro i dont get involved i think that my family is mostly ****** but i just follow the teachings of the Quran and the Hadith of the Prophet SAW
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I suggest dont go on that site its filled with hate for muslims and there is a lot of fitna on that site becareful of these types of site. | |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 9 Reputation: 5 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2006 Way of Life: Muslim | i suggest u all if u want to understand baralvi ****** problems u must read a book written by moulana yousuf ludhiyanvi (from pakistan) name of book is ........... ikhtilaf_e_ummet our siraat_e_mustaqeem...... i have red this book n got answeres of almost all quistions.. |
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| Brother In Islam Status: Offline Posts: 1,139 Reputation: 1531 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Lol but every one of his points have een refuted by Tariq Jameel.
__________________I think this thread should be closed down since we're arguing about sects rather than about unity |
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