Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - Page 2

Muslim Woman · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-27-2008

Salaam/peace;

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Originally Posted by Izyan

5000 people in 10 years might be a tragedy but it is not a holocaust. .

lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?

your source pl. for the number of the dead people. How many kids were murdered in Palestine in last 10 yrs ?

A Palestinian Child's Message

A child explains her sufferings with shooting all around. Her words touch the hearts deeply. Don't be shocked by her words.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/I...ic_03/01.shtml

Muslim Woman · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-27-2008

Weapons

Negev Commando

Sniper Rifle SR-99

Air-to-Ground Missile

http://www.islamonline.net/English/I...02/index.shtml

SATalha · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-28-2008

You cannot deny that since the occupation there has been a policy not only to remove Palestinians, but also exterminate them from their homes and villiges. Its been happning the past decades, so its not a "holocaust" now. Its more of a slow and painful extermination. One thing is for certain the Zionist are no better then the Nazis! Infact they are same.

Izyan · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by SATalha

You cannot deny that since the occupation there has been a policy not only to remove Palestinians, but also exterminate them from their homes and villiges. Its been happning the past decades, so its not a "holocaust" now. Its more of a slow and painful extermination. One thing is for certain the Zionist are no better then the Nazis! Infact they are same.

You do realize hyperbole like this undermines your argument right?

Izyan · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

Salaam/peace;

lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?

your source pl. for the number of the dead people. How many kids were murdered in Palestine in last 10 yrs ?

A Palestinian Child's Message

A child explains her sufferings with shooting all around. Her words touch the hearts deeply. Don't be shocked by her words.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/I...ic_03/01.shtml

4,604 palestinians and 1,033 Isreali deaths since 2000

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/deaths.html

Keltoi · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-28-2008

I have to agree with those that believe a "memorial" would have been more productive, accurate, and respectful. If someone wants to be concerned with a real genocide, look at Darfur. The Palestinians are a refugee people, many by their own design, some not. While I don't wish to downplay the suffering of innocent Palestinians, coining the situation a "holocaust" is simply dramatic license, and does more harm than good.

Fishman · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?

When there are more dead than survivors.

anatolian · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?

Good question but has no answer.The UN's 'official discribtion' says "a group of people" or somethink like that...

Holocaust is the special name of the Jewish genocide..but it's all up to us to decide whether the alestinian one is a genocide or 'simply' a persecution...I call it state terrorism

Trumble · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-29-2008

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Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

lol how many should die to make it a holocaust ?

No 'how many' is involved. The dictionary definition of the word 'holocaust' is "complete destruction, usually by fire". In this context it has another meaning; the attempted extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. There are no "a" holocausts, just the holocaust. The Palestinian conflict is not "a holocaust". Neither is that in Darfur. Nor were Rwanda or Cambodia, just to name two. That makes no judgement on how 'bad' those events were.. all were (are) terrible events and appalling human tragedies.

The problem is not just sloppy use of language. It is a deliberate distortion of that language to make a political (not a humanitarian) point (can you provide a link to the "Darfur holocaust memorial museum" please?). It is using dead children for that purpose. Use of the word 'holocaust' turns the museum from a memorial into propaganda. As I said, it insults the dead of both conflicts.

Muslim Woman · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-30-2008

Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

(May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)

&&

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians

Researched and curated by Michael Hoffman

Photo Gallery: Israeli Child Murder Documented

The world perpetually mourns the death of one Jewish child at the hands of the Nazis, Anne Frank.

She is commemorated in several books, eight separate movies and documentaries (including one now in production by Steven Spielberg) and countless shrines and museums.

Will the thousands of Arab children who have been slaughtered by the Israelis since 1948 be remembered by the West with a single memorial, or will the memory of the atrocities against these "un-Chosen" people be extinguished?

Let this webpage stand in testimony until such time as the conscience of the West can be awakened from its Jewish supremacist slumber, and commemorate all the victims of all the holocausts, including those perpetrated by Jews.

Michael Hoffman, October 2000

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine29.html

Trumble · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-30-2008

That would be the same Michael Hoffman who believes there were no gas chambers and that 6 million or so Jews died of typhus, or similar, would it?

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Let this webpage stand in testimony until such time as the conscience of the West can be awakened from its Jewish supremacist slumber

I rest my case.

Sanctus Paganis · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-30-2008

You can call it "holocaust" if only Israel exterminate palestinians. But then palestinians kills each other how you can say that Israel doing extermination?

TheAtheist · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-30-2008

It's shame what you Muslims are doing, later you claim you are being chased in Europe for no reason? If you wouldn't act like that (Supporting your Muslims brothers, no matter what they do) you might not be hated and had movies like Fitna released.

From 1968 (Since Palestinians exist) 10,000 Palestinians died, and approximately over 50% of them were terrorist. Now the Palestinians claim only the minority are terrorists, lower than 5%, so if that the Palestinian sources aren't lying (OMG WHY WOULD THEY DO IT?), the Israeli achievement is amazing, considering that the BRAVE Hamas which "Protects" the Palestinians by hiding between them, and shooting Qassams from Kindergartens, Schools and Hospitals. Palestinians propaganda at it's best.

crayon · 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAtheist

From 1968 (Since Palestinians exist) 10,000 Palestinians died, and approximately over 50% of them were terrorist..

Dude, what are you smoking?

edit- oh, wait, i know. It's one of those propaganda joints, yeah? They kill brain cells, be careful..

TheAtheist · **Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum -** 03-30-2008

What am i smoking? The arab league declared the Palestinian people as a Nation as a propaganda, that they could use in the future, it's working, aint it? Don't tell me you didnt know that. Maybe someone put that Propaganda joints in your Nargilas. Anyway, i wont argue about it cuz it's tiring.

But the fact that Hamas is shooting and fighting only from civilized places, is unarguable, proved, and not only proved, they are proud of themselves for doing it. if they were really "brave defenders" they would get away from the "innocent" Palestinians.

Pff. Calling it a holocaust, that's that most degraded thing ive ever heard, even more degradefull than smuggling weapons in Ambulances. What ? you never heard of that too?

The problem with you Muslims is that you are too one sided.

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Muslim Woman LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,843 Reputation: 3598 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-27-2008 Weapons Negev Commando Sniper Rifle SR-99 Air-to-Ground Missile http://www.islamonline.net/English/I...02/index.shtml __________________ "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28 Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near ( to God ) .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172 recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com

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SATalha Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 961 Reputation: 2241 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-28-2008 You cannot deny that since the occupation there has been a policy not only to remove Palestinians, but also exterminate them from their homes and villiges. Its been happning the past decades, so its not a "holocaust" now. Its more of a slow and painful extermination. One thing is for certain the Zionist are no better then the Nazis! Infact they are same. __________________ Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived. Sheikh Ahmad Yassin SALAM MY UMMAH VISIT: WWW.EASY-TALK.ORG

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Keltoi LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 4,528 Reputation: 5894 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-28-2008 I have to agree with those that believe a "memorial" would have been more productive, accurate, and respectful. If someone wants to be concerned with a real genocide, look at Darfur. The Palestinians are a refugee people, many by their own design, some not. While I don't wish to downplay the suffering of innocent Palestinians, coining the situation a "holocaust" is simply dramatic license, and does more harm than good. __________________ "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."

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Muslim Woman LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,843 Reputation: 3598 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-30-2008 Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you) && The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians Researched and curated by Michael Hoffman Photo Gallery: Israeli Child Murder Documented The world perpetually mourns the death of one Jewish child at the hands of the Nazis, Anne Frank. She is commemorated in several books, eight separate movies and documentaries (including one now in production by Steven Spielberg) and countless shrines and museums. Will the thousands of Arab children who have been slaughtered by the Israelis since 1948 be remembered by the West with a single memorial, or will the memory of the atrocities against these "un-Chosen" people be extinguished? Let this webpage stand in testimony until such time as the conscience of the West can be awakened from its Jewish supremacist slumber, and commemorate all the victims of all the holocausts, including those perpetrated by Jews. Michael Hoffman, October 2000 http://www.revisionisthistory.org/palestine29.html __________________ "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28 Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near ( to God ) .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172 recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com

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Sanctus Paganis Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 2 Reputation: 5 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-30-2008 You can call it "holocaust" if only Israel exterminate palestinians. But then palestinians kills each other how you can say that Israel doing extermination?

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TheAtheist Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 4 Reputation: -31 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-30-2008 It's shame what you Muslims are doing, later you claim you are being chased in Europe for no reason? If you wouldn't act like that (Supporting your Muslims brothers, no matter what they do) you might not be hated and had movies like Fitna released. From 1968 (Since Palestinians exist) 10,000 Palestinians died, and approximately over 50% of them were terrorist. Now the Palestinians claim only the minority are terrorists, lower than 5%, so if that the Palestinian sources aren't lying (OMG WHY WOULD THEY DO IT?), the Israeli achievement is amazing, considering that the BRAVE Hamas which "Protects" the Palestinians by hiding between them, and shooting Qassams from Kindergartens, Schools and Hospitals. Palestinians propaganda at it's best.

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TheAtheist Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 4 Reputation: -31 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Mar 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Palestinian Holocaust Memorial Museum - 03-30-2008 What am i smoking? The arab league declared the Palestinian people as a Nation as a propaganda, that they could use in the future, it's working, aint it? Don't tell me you didnt know that. Maybe someone put that Propaganda joints in your Nargilas. Anyway, i wont argue about it cuz it's tiring. But the fact that Hamas is shooting and fighting only from civilized places, is unarguable, proved, and not only proved, they are proud of themselves for doing it. if they were really "brave defenders" they would get away from the "innocent" Palestinians. Pff. Calling it a holocaust, that's that most degraded thing ive ever heard, even more degradefull than smuggling weapons in Ambulances. What ? you never heard of that too? The problem with you Muslims is that you are too one sided.