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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 409 Reputation: 529 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed | Quote:
Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of the refugees to their country, while it is we who made them leave it. […] We brought disaster upon one million Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave their land, their homes, their work and their industry. We have rendered them dispossessed, unemployed, whilst every one of them had work or a trade by which he could gain his livelihood. After the war, a few Arab leaders tried to present the Palestinian exodus as a victory by claiming to have planned it. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Said was later quoted as saying: "We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down." Contemporary Jordanian politician Anwar Nusseibeh believed that the fault for the exodus and military loss was with the Arab commanders: "the commanders of the local army thought in terms of the revolt against the British in the 1930s. The rebels had often retreated to the mountains, which made sense, as the British had not sought to take control of the country. But the Jews were fighting for complete domination, so the fighters had erred in withdrawing from the villages instead of defending them […]. He blamed himself as well. 'I underestimated the strength of my own people,' he wrote. […] His central thesis, however, was that the Palestinian Arabs could have won the country had their leaders not sabotaged the war effort and known how to cooperate." The Arab National Committee of Haifa, the Arab leadership in Haifa in 1948, wrote and delivered a report on the flight of roughly 60,000 Arabs from Haifa. The report said, "[T]he removal of the Arab inhabitants from the town was voluntary and carried out at our request." "Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property and to stay temporarily in neighboring, brotherly states, lest the guns of the invading Arab armies mow them down," wrote Habab Issa of Al-Hoda, the leading newspaper for Lebanese Maronites in the United States. A Muslim weekly newspaper in Beirut similarly reported, "Who brought the Palestinians to Lebanon as refugees, suffering now from the malign attitude of newspapers and communal leaders […]? The Arab States [sp], and Lebanon amongst them, did it!" Mahmoud Abbas, at the time Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, would later recall: "The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live." | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 345 Reputation: 705 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | if they wanted.. lol ... rite i can see that... man they want it.. but they cant do it... talkin all that sh*T 60 years.. i bet u dont know nothin of there so called planns to take over the whole middle east n wipe us out... n when they were in war with lebanon.. compare to them .. they r much stronger than them.. n they still lost...... |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 158 Reputation: 808 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: May 2008 Location: United States Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | Quote:
That is a silly claim(responding to the line you quoted) and one often used. Israel coulden't wipe out the Palistinians openly without loosing the support of Americans, and they need our funding. Israel has no intention of conquoring the middle east, that dosen't mean the arn't doing horrid things in the OT | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 345 Reputation: 705 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | [quote=wth1257;947390]That is a silly claim(responding to the line you quoted) and one often used. Israel coulden't wipe out the Palistinians openly without loosing the support of Americans, and they need our funding. Israel has no intention of conquoring the middle east, that dosen't mean the arn't doing horrid things in the OT[/QUO it might be silly to u but its the truth ... n how do u know wat intentions they got.. ur problem is that ur not lookin at the whole picture.. n since when american cares about the plai... " since u said losin the support of the americans * why would they lose it.. thats part of the whole plann.. salamz |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 158 Reputation: 808 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: May 2008 Location: United States Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | [quote=arabianprincess;947392] Quote:
I wasen't callig anything you wrote as silly, liveing in Michagin I'm sure you know a typical neocon argument aghinst Israeli atrocities in the OT's is to claim that Israel could wipe openly slaughter the Palistinians if the wished to so therefore they must not be doing much that's to bad in the OT's. While that is probably true militairly, gross military power isin't the final determinate on what a given nation can do. I can't be sure, however given the tramendous PR work Israel does in the US I'd be willing to bet they care somewhat about their image here? | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 158 Reputation: 808 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: May 2008 Location: United States Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | [quote=Izyan;947543]Yes Quote:
The question of weather Americans would be willing to send their forces into a foreign land to forceable stop atrocities in distant lands is entirely different from weather Americans would be willing to stop funding the regime commiting atrocities. | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 409 Reputation: 529 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed | [quote=wth1257;947561] Quote:
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,996 Reputation: 4756 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Salaam/peace;
__________________to wipe out the whole nation , I guess they need to use Nuke ?? But as neighbour , nuke will harm them , too. By using bullet , bomb ....it will take much time & strength to wipe out a whole nation. Also , as the sis pointed out , the Israel Army is not that powerful as we are told. The Lebanon war is a good example of it. "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28 Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near ( to God ) .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172 recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com |
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Online Posts: 4,940 Reputation: 7367 Rep Power: 27 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Israel "could" wipe out the Palestinians, but the end result would be a little more than simply losing U.S. support. Israel only has two concrete allies on the U.N. security council and probably not much more than that in the General Assembly. The result would be Israel being coined a "rogue nation". Rightly so of course. The U.S. isn't dependant upon Israel for much of anything besides intelligence and certain anti-insurgent techniques they have developed over the years. I also think most people would be surprised how many people inside of Israel would oppose any such action on the part of their government.
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,996 Reputation: 4756 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Salaam/peace;
__________________yes , many Jews are against the Zionists...Thanks God. "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28 Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near ( to God ) .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172 recitation:http://quran.jalisi.com |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 345 Reputation: 705 Rep Power: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | hmmmmmm losing n also losin there lives obviously .. compare to the other side.. they dont care,, well thats how i see it.. plus if they do that i believe arab will unite n that wont be a pretty picture for them... they always say never keep arab/ muslims united cuz they will be a threat salamz |
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Online Posts: 4,940 Reputation: 7367 Rep Power: 27 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
In any event, Israel has no intention of killing all Palestinians so the subject is pointless.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
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