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| LI Oldskool   Status: Offline Posts: 1,391 Reputation: 2131 Rep Power: 11   Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender:  Way of Life: Christian |  Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
Those who think that England (and any other european country) will be forever secular in future are very naive.
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| LI Senior Member  Status: Offline Posts: 174 Reputation: 512 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Gender:  Way of Life: Agnostic | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
I'd just like to add...ahem...that 99.3 percent of statistics and official figures are notoriously inaccurate.
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| Conqueror  Status: Offline Posts: 3,055 Reputation: 11289 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword! Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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 Those who think that any country will be independent in the near future are very naive. Long live the FISHMAN EMPIRE! More seriously, if you extrapolate the current trends of religion being increasingly marginalised and ignored, then yes, western Europe does look set to remain secular. That is ignoring other events that might happen to change the current trends of course. Would you agree with me that minorities are more likely to practice their religion than the majority group?  | |
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| Conqueror Status: Offline Posts: 3,055 Reputation: 11289 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword! Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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And 99% of statistics are made up on the spot. People are obessed with saying '99%' or '99.9%' or '85%' without any proof of what they are saying! | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 174 Reputation: 512 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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Anyway, sorry to drag this off-topic.... Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? Douglas Adams | |
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| iM HackeD!-!-!-!  Status: Offline Posts: 14,142 Reputation: 41067 Rep Power: 80 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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 ...i honestly thought it would reach at least a million. this is just sad, i wonder how many muslims there are in total amongst the british population may Allah guide us all | |
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| AllahIsWithDaPatient  Status: Offline Posts: 12,101 Reputation: 34197 Rep Power: 69 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jus restin..as a traveller..in the shade of a tree..until I reach my destination = Jannah (Ameen)... Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
 ^ Ameen... I would've thought brothers would go even if sisters dont...coz they have house and kids responsibilities etc. (not that I'm saying they shouldn't go, but its harder for them) |
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| LI Oldskool  Status: Offline Posts: 3,053 Reputation: 10857 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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According to the 2001 census 1,536,015 Muslims are living in England and Wales[9], where they form 3% of the population, in Scotland they represent 0.84% of the population (42,557)[10]. The Northern Ireland census indicated 1,943 Muslims[11].Source The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said, “Shall I inform you of the best morals of this world and the hereafter? They are to forgive he who oppresses you, to make a bond with he who severs from you, to be kind to he who insults you, and to give to he who deprives you. | |
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| Khalsa Shall Rule!  Status: Offline Posts: 3,138 Reputation: 4737 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Sikh | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
The decline is because many parents don't follow Christianity as they once did. So because of this, they can't teach/convince their children to go to Church or read/follow the teachings of the Bible.
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,391 Reputation: 2131 Rep Power: 11 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender: Way of Life: Christian |
03-27-2008
[quote=barney;920528][quote=Aaron85;920471] Quote:
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| Khalsa Shall Rule! Status: Offline Posts: 3,138 Reputation: 4737 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Sikh | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah. Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji! Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa. In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God. Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Mahraaj Ji! | |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 3,053 Reputation: 10857 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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 The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said, “Shall I inform you of the best morals of this world and the hereafter? They are to forgive he who oppresses you, to make a bond with he who severs from you, to be kind to he who insults you, and to give to he who deprives you. | |
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| iM HackeD!-!-!-! Status: Offline Posts: 14,142 Reputation: 41067 Rep Power: 80 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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i know its opposite, but its strange that it reminds me that one third will leave imam mahdi to fight alone... (ie turn back) and one third will be swallowed right? correct me if im wrong | |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 3,053 Reputation: 10857 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
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But that's masjid on Fridays. What about Fajr and 'Isha prayers? In the vast majority of cases, at least Fajr would be outside of people's work hours, wouldn't it? The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said, “Shall I inform you of the best morals of this world and the hereafter? They are to forgive he who oppresses you, to make a bond with he who severs from you, to be kind to he who insults you, and to give to he who deprives you. | |
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| iM HackeD!-!-!-! Status: Offline Posts: 14,142 Reputation: 41067 Rep Power: 80 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Muslims 'to outnumber traditional churchgoers' -
03-27-2008
^ yeah unless they have late hours, but honestly masjids are so widespread i mean i have two next to my work place so i try going every zuhr. (cant make asr) but in my masjid its normally packed out during zuhr Alhamdulillah |
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