Message to the World - Page 2

Air Jordan · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-27-2008

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Originally Posted by S1aveofA11ah

The original poster said:

Currently Keltoi the West has launched two major invasions on two countries and killed a lot of civilians. Some say up to 1 million died in Iraq. This isn't something that one can brush under the carpet..

Yes..some say that don't they. It is not true but they say it. Nothing is getting "brushed under the carpet", either, except perhaps the nasty little secret of how much the Sunni hate the Shia.

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The excuse was weapons of mass destruction which turned out to be a lie. I agree with you in all fairness that other countries (i.e. not in the West) do and have done similar evils. Lets just not make a mistake and presume the West is free of evils.

That was not an "excuse", it was a "reason". That is a big difference. And the only "lie" was when Hussein pretended to retain his WMD's. I suspect the next tinpot won't make that mistake, will he.

The word "lie" means the willful and knowing telling of a falsehood. Can we get that straight please? I know it seems pedantic but words really do mean things.

Is the West "free of evils"? Of course not. Do most of the Muslim posters on this forum live in the West? Curiously, they do.

Light of Heaven · 11:32 PM

Yea but most people tend to do it more...

Air Jordan · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-27-2008

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Originally Posted by Jazzy

Yea but most people like yourselves tend to do it more...

Help me to understand, then. "People like" {us} "tend to" {make assumptions or generalize} "more"?

Do you not find that comment ironic? I don't really know what to say. One need only review the titles of threads. 3 of 4 are likely to be "West-bashing" or Israel-bashing. With certain posters it is 100% guranteed.

There is the occaisional introspective thread but it usually turns into a bash the moderate party.

Light of Heaven · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

See why i edited it? Can't you leave it edited? I realized I was talking to the wrong person...jeez.

Air Jordan · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Jazzy

See why i edited it? Can't you leave it edited? I realized I was talking to the wrong person...jeez.

Sorry, you lost me. BTW, in some circles "jeez" is impolite as it is slang for "Jesus".

Eric H · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

Greetings and peace be with you, BeefGrass; thanks for the explosive message at the end of the video.

If we keep fighting- everyones loses.

In the spirit of praying for peace on this forum and peace on Earth.

Eric

S1aveofA11ah · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Air Jordan

Yes..some say that don't they. It is not true but they say it. Nothing is getting "brushed under the carpet", either, except perhaps the nasty little secret of how much the Sunni hate the Shia.

What nasty little secret?. Are you crazy? - the long Iran/Iraq war was all about Shia vs. Sunni. I think it lasted 10+ years. The media was constantly reporting Shia vs. Sunni. Maybe you never picked up the news then?. The whole world knows they don't like each other.

That was not an "excuse", it was a "reason". That is a big difference. And the only "lie" was when Hussein pretended to retain his WMD's. I suspect the next tinpot won't make that mistake, will he.

The word "lie" means the willful and knowing telling of a falsehood. Can we get that straight please? I know it seems pedantic but words really do mean things.

No - if it was a reason it would have been based on hard facts i.e. proof of WMD. There were not any. There were not any to begin with.

Is the West "free of evils"? Of course not. Do most of the Muslim posters on this forum live in the West? Curiously, they do.

So what if they do live in the West. Highlight me ONE poster on this forum who is a true Muslim (not some bogus poster/s or demented/extremist Muslims) who HATES the WHOLE West and makes claims like 'The West is Evil' or 'The West is the Big Satan'. In fact according to you MOST of them are like that!!. Where are they - who are they - when have they said such things?. You seem to know them very well - please show me this long list of names as I'm quite interested.

And if you can come up with evidence then it shows only that THOSE posters are wrong in their thinking about hating the WHOLE West as opposed to some of the evils of the West.

Air Jordan · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

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Originally Posted by S1aveofA11ah

So what if they do live in the West. Highlight me ONE poster on this forum who is a true Muslim (not some bogus poster/s or demented/extremist Muslims) who HATES the WHOLE West and makes claims like 'The West is Evil' or 'The West is the Big Satan'. In fact according to you MOST of them are like that!!. Where are they - who are they - when have they said such things?. You seem to know them very well - please show me this long list of names as I'm quite interested.

And if you can come up with evidence then it shows only that THOSE posters are wrong in their thinking about hating the WHOLE West as opposed to some of the evils of the West.

You are attributing to me the use of absolutes which I did not use. I said most of the threads either start with a West-bashing theme or evolve in that direction.

As for names. I think not. I already have 15 "demerits" for using mysterious "offensive language" and I am not going to violate a clearly stated forum policy.

BTW...how am I supposed to know who a "true Muslim" is? Why don't you tell me who the "bogus Muslims" are then I can ignore them.

Light of Heaven · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Air Jordan

Sorry, you lost me. BTW, in some circles "jeez" is impolite as it is slang for "Jesus".

I dont use like it that. I use my own meaning....I'll use "sheesh" just for u.

Air Jordan · **Re: Message to the World -** 05-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Jazzy

I dont use like it that. I use my own meaning....I'll use "sheesh" just for u.

Fair enough. Doesn't really bother me anyway. I think you would be safe with "sheesh"

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Light of Heaven Jazzy Status: Offline Posts: 5,385 Reputation: 13892 Rep Power: 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunya a.k.a New York...lol Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Message to the World - 05-27-2008 Yea but most people tend to do it more... __________________ Keep the plight of the Ummah in your Du'as InshaAllah Last edited by Light of Heaven; 05-27-2008 at 11:32 PM.

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Light of Heaven Jazzy Status: Offline Posts: 5,385 Reputation: 13892 Rep Power: 37 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dunya a.k.a New York...lol Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Message to the World - 05-28-2008 See why i edited it? Can't you leave it edited? I realized I was talking to the wrong person...jeez. __________________ Keep the plight of the Ummah in your Du'as InshaAllah

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Eric H LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,144 Reputation: 9257 Rep Power: 35 Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Christian	Re: Message to the World - 05-28-2008 Greetings and peace be with you, BeefGrass; thanks for the explosive message at the end of the video. If we keep fighting- everyones loses. In the spirit of praying for peace on this forum and peace on Earth. Eric