asalam alaikum wr wb,

Coca Cola

On Tuesday February 19th 2002, Coca-Cola helped through a partnership with the University of Minnesota, fund a pro-Israel propaganda lecture given by Linda Gradstein. The event was cosponsored by zionist organizations like Friends of Israel, and National Hillel.




http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.html


Any comments?


wa alaikum asalam wr wb

Yes, I think people "see" what they like when they're duly motivated. I'm still circling this one hadith in which Kaab al Ahbar is said to have counted the days to the Caliph Omar's death. Kaab al Ahbar's writings are at the very core of my studies, but in all the records I've found, none of them name him as a phophet, yet he claims he saw the Caliph's death in the Torah. That man has landed me right in the center of some very serious religious cross-fire and it has taken me almost nine years to fully work it out without bringing the whole House down

You write: Anyone can type anything and get away it.

Not really. One should take great care with the words they write because they can (and will) come back to haunt you ;)

The Ninth Scribe

Wow, I'd always thought the Hillel schools were reputable, in that they have allowed me the honor of religious debate concerning certain records. In other words, they've entertained and in some cases have even upheld my dispute of the interpretations of some of the records, such as Temurah 15b (among others).

Also, the Coca-Cola funding seems to be attached to the university, not Hillel directly. But it's something I'll certainly look into.

The Ninth Scribe

Hi Ninth_Scribe,

I think there maybe more info on the link in my post. But do let us know what you find. Tnx.

As i said in my original post :

but i hope you still don't believe the whole "La mecca La muhammed" rumour, as you did in the other 'Coke' thread.

Coca Cola supports Israel, yes. Coca Cola did not design it's logo to be read as "no Allah no Muhammad" backwards, it doesn't have alcohol in it, it doesn't have any traces of pork. If you're going to boycott it, do it for reasons based on fact, not urban legends spread by people who think they're doing good. I think that's what this whole thread is about..

asalam alaikum wr wb,

lol, I can't for sure say I don't believe it. But neither can I say anymore that I believe it. So I'm in doubt. Let's say even if it doesn't but.........
(continued below)


....... you still agree that Coca Cola supports Israel.

I never claimed it contains haram ingredients. Like so many other people, I'd never have thought that a soft drink could be haram ingredient-wise. It was initially my concern/belief about the logo and their support of Israel that led me to boycott them.

However The following are not true of Cola Cola...

HOAX NEWS

Fuji "map with no Israel" hoax [ April 28 2002 ]
http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-news-0036.html

Is PEPSI is an abbreviation of "Pay Every Penny to Save Israel"?
http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-news-0024.html

Coca Cola Advert on the "Dome of the Rock" Hoax
http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-news-0080.html

'729' Barcode of Israel ?
http://inminds.co.uk/boycott-news-0073.html


I was wrong to say that the purchasing of coca cola is 'haram'. But obviously by that I meant the financial contribution to Israeli supporters - which again doesn't make it haram, since as someone pointed out that the Prophet (PBUH) traded with Jews and Polytheists.


However, I as a muslim do not want to put my hand into something that is linked to the suffering of the Ummah. Surely that is better, right? Mustahabb? Don't forget, in the Prophet's times, muslims had the strength of imaan to fight the kuffar and needed not to weaken them financially to resist their attacks on Islam and muslims. But that is not the case today. If we can make a difference, by weakening their finance of warfare, then we can from wherever we are in the world, help the Ummah. It kills me to think that it is our money which goes toward the bullets they put into a muslims body. That's enough for me.

So the next time you pour yourselves a glass of coke contemplate whether you have contributed to the loss of a muslim life.


As it happened in the 'Is Coke harram' thread, I will now withdraw from engaging in further arguement - since it's up to each person to do what they want. For that reason I'm out.


wa alaikum asalam wr wb.

To the thread starter I TOTALLY agree with what you are saying..I hate people sending me those messages and saying forward it or you'll die.i mean you'll have bad luck..I just get annoyed..sending me an email for me to benefit from it is something while warning me..that's just a turn-off from reading anything..Yes i agree when i was younger i read these emails and if it was amazing or shocking i would forward it but now i read them carefully think about it and after alongg time email certain people..We really do need to think before we do anything which even includes transferring false beliefs. So. Jazakallah Khair for the reminder and post bro.

Why would somebody who makes fizzy drinks support Israel, or Palestine for that matter? They might give money to charities and 'peace' conferences in both countries, but taking sides is just silly if you are a multinational company that tries to attract as big a market as possible.

Israelis actually think that Coke is anti-Israel, because they closed all their factories there and left the Palestinian ones open, persumably because of bad business.

Boycott Coca-Cola -- Let This Company Know That You Condemn Its Participation In Anti-Semitism March 15, 2007 Print | Email
Update April 19, 2007:

ZOA Spurs Coca-Cola To Address Plight Of Jews Whose Property Was Stolen By Egypt

ZOA Action Alert:

Coca-Cola has been occupying and reaping the benefits from stolen property in Egypt -- property that was stolen from its Jewish owners, the Bigio family, by the Egyptian government. When the Bigios learned about Coca-Cola's plan to acquire an interest in their property, they repeatedly asked Coca-Cola to do the right thing and compensate them for their loss. But Coca-Cola has never offered them a penny. (For more details, see the ZOA's press release on March 9, 2007.)

Coca-Cola should be ashamed of its unfair and immoral conduct. The Company holds itself out as "more than a beverage company" -- it's a "corporate citizen of the world" that's supposed to "act in every instance with honesty, integrity, accountability and respect." Coca-Cola tells its employees to "never engage in behavior that harms the reputation of the Company. If you wouldn't want to tell your parents or your children about your action -- or wouldn't want to read about it in a newspaper -- don't do it."

Then why is the "Coca-Cola Bottling Companies of Egypt"
operating on the property of Jewish victims of anti-Semitism?
Please Take Three Simple Steps To Get Coca-Cola To
Live Up To Its Own Credo And Compensate The Bigios For Their Loss.

1. Tell Coca-Cola That You Don't Support Companies That Participate In And Benefit From Anti-Semitism.

Write to: E. Neville Isdell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
The Coca-Cola Company
P.O. Box 1734
Atlanta, GA 30301
and/or e-mail Coca-Cola at:
www.CokeFeedback.com and crreview@na.ko.com
and/or call Coca-Cola at: 1-800-GET COKE (438-2653)

Sample message:
Dear Mr. Isdell,
I condemn Coca-Cola's treatment of the Bigio family, whose property was stolen from them by the Egyptian government in 1962, in a campaign of anti-Semitism. Knowing this, Coca-Cola nevertheless acquired an interest in the Bigios' property -- which is now being occupied by the "Coca-Cola Bottling Companies of Egypt" -- and has refused to compensate the Bigios for their loss.

I will not buy Coca-Cola products until you right the wrong that's been perpetrated against the Bigio family. No company that prides itself on a reputation of honesty, integrity, accountability and respect, should be participating and benefiting from anti-Semitism.
2. Boycott Coca-Cola Products! There are many, including A&W, Bacardi Mixers, Canada Dry, Crush, Dasani, Dannon, Dr. Pepper, Fanta, Fresca, Fruitopia, Hi-C, Horizon, Joy, Minute Maid, Nescafe, Nestea, Nature's Own, Schweppes, Seagrams, Sprite and TaB. For a complete list, go to http://www.thecoca-company.com/brands/brandlist.html.

3. Forward This Action Alert To Everyone You Know!
Your Activism Will Send A Message That Decent And Fair-Minded People Won't Stand Idly By When Companies Act With Impunity Against Innocent People.

The Zionist Organization of America, founded in 1897, is the oldest pro-Israel organization in the United States. The ZOA works to strengthen U.S.-Israel relations, educates the American public and Congress about the dangers that Israel faces, and combats anti-Israel bias in the media and on college campuses. Its past presidents have included Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis and Rabbi Dr. Abba Hillel Silver.

Source: http://www.zoa.org/sitedocuments/act...ionalertID=405

The basic message being:

If you are going to boycott any company, do it for specified verifiable reasons. Not because of urban legends or personal desires.

A paradoxical thought. Based on Brother NM's post, boycotting Coca-Cola could be seen as supporting Israel.

Learn the true facts before acting and once you have verified the truth, ACT.

But, in all instance learn the facts and not rely on the word of friends, relatives, "authorities".

You know what the problem is with these rumours? They're not cool enough.

Rather than saying things like 'Coca Cola contains pig buttocks' why don't they say something like 'Coca Cola contains mind-altering nanomachines that will transform the human race into flesh-eating zombies'? If you're going to lie, might as well lie with style.

But in all seriousness, good thread.