Propoganda/rumors. - Page 4

SirZubair · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Ha ha ha ha,.. believe it or not, there are people out there who have said bad things behind my back recently,.. inside of mosques!

Al-Zaara · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by SirZubair

Ha ha ha ha,.. believe it or not, there are people out there who have said bad things behind my back recently,.. inside of mosques!

May Allah subahan we ta'ala forgive their and our sins, inshaAllah, and grant us the mercy to find love and excuses for one another, aswell as having faith in the good of our fellow Muslims. Amiin!

SirZubair · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

I'll tell you whats most disturbing.

My article was posted in the mosque on a thursday.

It was up there until after Friday/Jumuoh prayers.

Then someone removed it, obviously it wasn't their cup of tea.

I didn't care, i had done my part.

I returned to the mosque the next day only to find MORE lies on the board.

"Fatwa from saudi,.. don't write "MOHD",.. don't write "MECCA"..

Suffiyan007 · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by SirZubair

Asalam alaikum,

Here is a thought, how about we as a Ummah do something good for a change? :-P Hate to admit it, but there aren't many good things happening around the world these days, as i am sure you are all aware.

Having said that, does that justify the wrong actions of millions of muslims? Are we as muslims, encouraged by the Quran kareem, by the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) to spread lies? The obvious answer is No. Am i correct, or not?

So why is it that every year, 1 or 2 rumors are recycled? For example.... "Coke is haram because it contains alcohol" "Coke is haram because it contains pig" "Coke is haram because it contains cocain".."If you turn the Logo "Coke cola" around it says "La mecca la muhammed" which means "NO MECCA NO MUHAMMED"...

I am SURE you have all come across 1 of those atleast once or twice, eh?

Its nothing to smile about, or laugh about. As i've heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf quote in 1 of his lectures "It is the worst of things that make us laugh"

If someone says "Coke is bad for your health", i would nominate that person for an award. But those out there who continue to spread such rumors need to think before they forward emails, or post in forums.

People think "I will be doing the ummah a favour by spreading this information, i will be doing my duty as a muslim". I am sure those brothers and sisters are being SINCERE when spreading such emails. But being sincere isnt everything at times, especially in this time and age when you have SHAYKH GOOGLE. By punching in keywords such as "Coke Haram Pork" "Coke Haram Alcohol" you can find refutations of such claims all over the internet.

Coke isn't the only victim, there is a rumor out there that 'Pepsi' means "Pay every penny (to the) State (of) Israel"

How pathetic is that?

What i've noticed recently is that those very muslims who have told me recently that "Coke and pepsi are haram" are drinking 'Fanta' 'L&P' 'Sprite', which is all made by the same company. How is that for blindly following a propoganda?

There are those out there who will spread such emails and end it with a 'Cheering support for Mecca Cola'. How different is 'Mecca Cola' to all those other Drinks? If you drop a nail in a glass of coke, it will rust, Right? If you drop a nail in a glass of mecca cola, will it turn to gold? No it will not. You need to get your head checked if your answer was "Yes" to that question... :-P

On the other hand, if they say "Buy Mecca Cola instead of coke because Coke donates money to the illegal state of israel", i won't argue with them. But to SPREAD the TRUTH by slapping a LIE on top of the TRUTH does the truth no Justice. Remember that next time, Insha'allah.

Do not get me wrong brothers and sisters, this post is not in any support of Coke or Pepsi or any other american Product. Before any1 starts emailing me hate mails calling me a "Zionist", please think twice. lol. My point is pretty clear.

We, as an Ummah, cannot afford to sit around toasting marshmallow over ashs. Stop posting rubbish in forums. Stop emailing such rubbish to others. Stop promising them that if they pass the message on to "20 people, Allah will answer your prayers in 2 hours", while you may think you are doing your bit for the ummah, you are stepping into a "NO ENTRY" zone, which is Allahs Qa'da and Qa'dar, which Allah (swt) has knowledge over, not you or I.

Do something more useful with your time. Do something which will benefit the Ummah. Go plant some trees. Help your parents around the house. Go clean the local mosque - clean the windows, brush the carpark with a broom, etc.

There is so much to be done. So lets stop wasting our energy on spreading useless information which will benefit no-one.

"Unity based on falsehood" is a message that our Prophet (saw) didn't convey to us. For us to be conveying lies to our friends, family, random people (by posting such lies in places such as our MOSQUES) is a disgrace, it is a stain on the pure whiteness that our Religon is founded on.

So please, Think before you email/post on forums in the future. Remember, Shaykh Google. And when that fails, use your Aql. Allah swt asks us in the Quran "Do you not use your intellect?"

Insha'allah, All that i have said above is a reminder for myself before anyone else. If you sensed any self righteousness in the above post, then please Pray to Allah swt for my forgivness.

Insha'allah, i pray that anyone who reads this may reflect on it and benefit from it.

Jazakallah/Jazakillah for your time Brothers/Sisters.

Wa'salaam.

- Zuber

Dear Zubair,

I had hear about this case...actually drinking a soft drink is Haram...
why is haram...lotsa cold drink will lead to diabetes...so lotsa health problem..
plus in my country lotsa muslim drinking "Coke"....the soft drink is creation of Al-yahud...JEwS...! people drinking this making jews happy....i see in book of Halal/haram that coke is haram....but still people drink it...i adviced them no one listen....i agreed your thought...perhap i dont drink soft drink i more to like hot drink like chinese tea,coffee,lipton tea and etc...beneficial for health...!

James1992 · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Anti islam propoganda is something sadly i have become used to seeing and hearing..

Musaafir · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Thank you most kindly for the thread!

Al-Zaara · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by SirZubair

I'll tell you whats most disturbing.

My article was posted in the mosque on a thursday.

It was up there until after Friday/Jumuoh prayers.

Then someone removed it, obviously it wasn't their cup of tea.

I didn't care, i had done my part.

I returned to the mosque the next day only to find MORE lies on the board.

"Fatwa from saudi,.. don't write "MOHD",.. don't write "MECCA"..

Huh?? What's meant with 'don't write MOHD and MECCA'? Can you elaborate..?

I'm glad I don't have to deal with stuff like this in our mosque. Elhamdulillah.

crayon · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

Dear Zubair,

I had hear about this case...actually drinking a soft drink is Haram...
why is haram...lotsa cold drink will lead to diabetes...so lotsa health problem..
plus in my country lotsa muslim drinking "Coke"....the soft drink is creation of Al-yahud...JEwS...! people drinking this making jews happy....i see in book of Halal/haram that coke is haram....but still people drink it...i adviced them no one listen....i agreed your thought...perhap i dont drink soft drink i more to like hot drink like chinese tea,coffee,lipton tea and etc...beneficial for health...!

Did you even read the first post?

James1992 · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Obviousley Not...

Suffiyan007 · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

yes i read....that coca cola mean...addressed No muhammad no mecca...is jews trick!

Suffiyan007 · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

i know this case before zubair post this thread!

SirZubair · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Al-Zaara

Huh?? What's meant with 'don't write MOHD and MECCA'? Can you elaborate..?

I'm glad I don't have to deal with stuff like this in our mosque. Elhamdulillah.

Well, there are people out there who write "Mohd" in short for "Muhammed". There are millions of people out there with the surname of "Mohammed/Muhammed", and they spell "Mohd" when they quickly spell their surnames, i do too in my signature. A "Fatwa from saudi" has been issued saying "To spell MUHD/MOHD is haram, because MUHD/MOHD means "DoG with loud mouth" And to spell Mecca instead of Makka is haram, MECCA means "House of wines.."

..along with other lies.

I am sure i've read those lies on this forum in the past, and on many other forums.

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

Dear Zubair,

I had hear about this case...actually drinking a soft drink is Haram...
why is haram...lotsa cold drink will lead to diabetes...so lotsa health problem..
plus in my country lotsa muslim drinking "Coke"....the soft drink is creation of Al-yahud...JEwS...! people drinking this making jews happy....i see in book of Halal/haram that coke is haram....but still people drink it...i adviced them no one listen....i agreed your thought...perhap i dont drink soft drink i more to like hot drink like chinese tea,coffee,lipton tea and etc...beneficial for health...!

Did you even read my post? I know you QUOTED my post,.. but did you read it? Or did you just read the keywords such as "Coke" "Haram"...?

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Originally Posted by crayon

Did you even read the first post?

I don't think he did..

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Originally Posted by Suffiyan007

yes i read....that coca cola mean...addressed No muhammad no mecca...is jews trick!

Brother Suffiyan,.. Jews don't own Coca Cola Ltd.

Keltoi · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Isn't it also kind of a strange concept to say "Jews own Coca Cola" anyway? Did all the "Jews" get together and decide to establish a worldwide softdrink giant in order to put a coded message on the can? ....

anatolian · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

Now, does coca cola support Israel or not?

SirZubair · **Re: Propoganda/rumors. -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by anatolian

Now, does coca cola support Israel or not?

Quote:

In an effort to rally Arab boycotts against The Coca-Cola Company and other American companies, many variations of a rumor exist claiming that our company provides financial support to Israel. One widely circulated rumor claims NBC reported that Coca-Cola had announced it would donate four days' profits to Israel.
Our Response: This information is not true, but has been circulated by ill-informed or ill-intentioned third parties. The Coca-Cola Company is not political, and does not support individual countries, governments or political or religious causes.

The Coca-Cola Company and its bottling partners operate worldwide in more than 200 countries. While The Coca-Cola Company is a global company, the Coca-Cola business in each country is a local business. Coca-Cola beverages are produced, sold and distributed by authorized local bottling partners, who own and operate bottling plants and sales/distribution centers, employing many local citizens.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/c...st_israel.html

Which is why i have made some alterations to my article, insha'allah i will post the new article in a minute.

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SirZubair EliteRationalMinded Status: Offline Posts: 2,748 Reputation: 11549 Rep Power: 32 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Propoganda/rumors. - 07-01-2008 Ha ha ha ha,.. believe it or not, there are people out there who have said bad things behind my back recently,.. inside of mosques! __________________ *Dont Mistake My Harshness* For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.**

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SirZubair EliteRationalMinded Status: Offline Posts: 2,748 Reputation: 11549 Rep Power: 32 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Propoganda/rumors. - 07-01-2008 I'll tell you whats most disturbing. My article was posted in the mosque on a thursday. It was up there until after Friday/Jumuoh prayers. Then someone removed it, obviously it wasn't their cup of tea. I didn't care, i had done my part. I returned to the mosque the next day only to find MORE lies on the board. "Fatwa from saudi,.. don't write "MOHD",.. don't write "MECCA".. __________________ *Dont Mistake My Harshness* For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.**

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