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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,552 Reputation: 2666 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Did the nationalism also caused Turkey's technological,scientifical. cultural and military backwardness in comparission to Europe these times?
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| Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,855 Reputation: 52913 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | It sure did.. once they have let go of Islam, they have let go of their compulsion to seek knowledge.. for it is one of the pillars they have let go of along like moral decency!
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How come The Ottoman Empire were So Succesful In the Early Days ?? ![]() ![]() Surely the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of man; but most people know not [40:57] | |
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| LI's Natureboy Status:
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![]() ![]() Surely the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of man; but most people know not [40:57] | |
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,552 Reputation: 2666 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Its ironic because before nationalists came up to power, there was only religious schools in Ottoman Turkey. No enginery schools,no technical schools, no modern military schools.
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| Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,855 Reputation: 52913 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
I can't blame everything on kamal ataturk singularly but he certainly made corruption from within more obvious.. and now we have lost turkey.. but we are to gain it back with two words insha'Allah as per prophecy.. you can say all that is set in motion is very expected.. cheers For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary. Tous articles prohibés sont sujets à saisie ![]() | |
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| Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,855 Reputation: 52913 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | If you think peter the great were weak.. you'll need a brush up course on his own private conquests
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| LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,552 Reputation: 2666 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
Besides, I know that you will gain it back. At least everything is showing that. This is too strong culture to be so easily replaced or wiped off. I am aware of this.Until Ottoman Empire come again at the borders of my country I dont care about it honestly. Somewhere I read that faith pushed to catacombs doesnt die but savages(didnt it happen already in USA?Who knows). Thats why secularists loose at the end at last.
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| Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,855 Reputation: 52913 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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