I beg you pardon?
My professor used to say that he likes being a pigmy. I guess that I also likes this.
P.S When I was talkinbg about you gaining back everything I meant Turkey.

well that is not the only 'everything' that we were promised.... but that is besides...
I ask this not because of anything related to this thread really... most of the Polish people I have met i.e out of 7 three became devout Muslims, they were the hard working and studied of the rest, who just liked the 'american dream' too much though never attained it....

I invite you to become Muslim as I do anyone I find virtuous... not because anything having to do with the topic or conquests or or.. you'd not give up Jesus when you become Muslim, you might even appreciate him a little more than a toy doll at borders book store or walmart..

cheers

i don't understand the question???
i like the ACLU and have been a member.
i would hope that the ACLU would defend women's rights to wear headscarves, if it were here. (better yet that it should never be an issue).
why should the turkish courts try to get rid of the elected government because the gov't wanted to do away with the head scarf ban?
i like secularism of the type we have here, which is really separation of church & state. i don't understand turkey's version, which seems quite militant to me. i wouldn't want secularism forced on me any more than i would want a religion forced on me.
as a side note, toward the end, the ottoman empire was already moving toward secularism (=before ataturk)
btw i don't mean to give the impression that i know a whole bunch about turkey, because i don't.

Why dont they call Turkey as "Ill man of Asia"?

Why many older generation has "Mustafa Kamal" on their names?

Was he so popular in Malaya?

If I'm not mistaken, Young Turk movement influence Young Malay Union (Kesatuan Melayu Muda) alot...

Luckily Tunku Abdul Rahman didnt rule this country as Ataturk...

Because the Ottoman empire at the time covered three continents, including Europe.

ok. Got that... thanks!

I think this is more "anti-islam" than "secularity"

You find the same in many part of the US. People have been living in fear of islam and muslims since 9/11 (and before that for non-americans). Its actually one of the things that brought me to this board, to see if the anti-islam people had legitimate concerns or were just blowing smoke.

Btw Youtube Is already closed There

He has weird eyebrows.
isnt he still being used in the trukish lira?

Christianity accepts everyone whether they are virtuous or not. All men have fallen short of the glory of God. Are you trying to say we don't appreciate our Lord and Savior?

I find quite the opposite. I am Iraqi and don't encounter any hardships at all. Actually most people are pretty nice. Ignorant sometimes but overall nice.

Yep You see his head Everywhere in Turkey

thats not nice!!!
i'm sure you would not like people saying that about you after you pass away ( like i mean when you do God forbid it being soon... Oh im sure u know what i mean)

we cant enter youtube coz it includes videos insulting ataturk...