How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - Page 4

James1992 · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

Turkeys ruling AK PARTY is going on trial this shows how much of a democrcy Turkey is.,..

**Güven** · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

AK Party Had Just Won The Votings Last Year With BIG Numbers and Now They Are goin to close it Hmmm , Let them Try

James1992 · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...

Whatsthepoint · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

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Originally Posted by James1992

Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...

Not at all.

James1992 · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

I Think There Might Be A Coup In Turkey Sooner Rather Than Later..

anatolian · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-01-2008

"Love" can't be forced.If then it cannot be love.But you can say how dare you don't respect.We can respect people,things etc which we don't love...This is part of being a human at first and a muslim as well.

Fadly · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

I heard this "Since the West failed to ultimately destroyed the Ottoman Empire during Gallipoli campaign, and with the the Caliph threatening to incite a major muslim uprising in British India, the West began an attempt to destroy the Ottoman Empire from inside. Attaturk are one of the foremost agent in this endeavour" Don't remember where i read it.

The secularist fear the rise of the second Ottoman Empire. If the Caliphate can be reinstituted, then it is possible that the Muslim world can be united at some level.

north_malaysian · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

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Originally Posted by James1992

Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...

AK PARTY is a religious-friendly and minority-friendly secular party...

James1992 · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

Iam not saying they arnt iam just saying sky news and bbc news said they were islamic fundamentalists....

Whatsthepoint · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

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Originally Posted by James1992

Iam not saying they arnt iam just saying sky news and bbc news said they were islamic fundamentalists....

I'm positive they never said that.
what they may have said is that certain party members had connections with now defunct islamic parties or that the supreme court prosecution is accusing the APK of islamic practices or something like that.

**Güven** · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

Well They are An Islamic party But I dont see Any Islamic Practises Comin from Them

KAding · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

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Originally Posted by James1992

Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...

What Western news agencies are you talking about? Could you provide some links? I've never seen the AK party described as anything worse than "mild Islamists".

Whatsthepoint · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

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Well They are An Islamic party But I dont see Any Islamic Practises Comin from Them

They deny being islamic.
Well, they tried to change the law about wearing religious and political symbols in public places.

**Güven** · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

I am Not saying That They Are Good , They Are Just Giving That People A chance In The Society and Obviosly People Doesnt Want That

Whatsthepoint · **Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? -** 07-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Güven

I am Not saying That They Are Good , They Are Just Giving That People A chance In The Society and Obviosly People Doesnt Want That

huh?

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James1992 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 106 Reputation: 270 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Middlesbrough UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-01-2008 Turkeys ruling AK PARTY is going on trial this shows how much of a democrcy Turkey is.,..

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Güven LI's Natureboy Status: Offline Posts: 4,273 Reputation: 20461 Rep Power: 33 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: WeSt3rN EuR0pE Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-01-2008 AK Party Had Just Won The Votings Last Year With BIG Numbers and Now They Are goin to close it Hmmm , Let them Try __________________ Surely the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of man; but most people know not [40:57]

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James1992 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 106 Reputation: 270 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Middlesbrough UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-01-2008 Good point there but in the elections western news agencys tryed to say that the AK PARTY were Islamic nutters...

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James1992 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 106 Reputation: 270 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Middlesbrough UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-01-2008 I Think There Might Be A Coup In Turkey Sooner Rather Than Later..

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anatolian LI Senior Member Status: Online Posts: 129 Reputation: 191 Rep Power: 6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-01-2008 "Love" can't be forced.If then it cannot be love.But you can say how dare you don't respect.We can respect people,things etc which we don't love...This is part of being a human at first and a muslim as well.

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Fadly Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 2 Reputation: 5 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2008 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-02-2008 I heard this "Since the West failed to ultimately destroyed the Ottoman Empire during Gallipoli campaign, and with the the Caliph threatening to incite a major muslim uprising in British India, the West began an attempt to destroy the Ottoman Empire from inside. Attaturk are one of the foremost agent in this endeavour" Don't remember where i read it. The secularist fear the rise of the second Ottoman Empire. If the Caliphate can be reinstituted, then it is possible that the Muslim world can be united at some level.

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James1992 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 106 Reputation: 270 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Middlesbrough UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-02-2008 Iam not saying they arnt iam just saying sky news and bbc news said they were islamic fundamentalists....

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Güven LI's Natureboy Status: Offline Posts: 4,273 Reputation: 20461 Rep Power: 33 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: WeSt3rN EuR0pE Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-02-2008 Well They are An Islamic party But I dont see Any Islamic Practises Comin from Them __________________ Surely the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of man; but most people know not [40:57]

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Güven LI's Natureboy Status: Offline Posts: 4,273 Reputation: 20461 Rep Power: 33 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: WeSt3rN EuR0pE Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: How Dare You Not Love Ataturk? - 07-02-2008 I am Not saying That They Are Good , They Are Just Giving That People A chance In The Society and Obviosly People Doesnt Want That __________________ Surely the creation of the heavens and the earth is greater than the creation of man; but most people know not [40:57]