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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-05-2008

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Sure I do. I just don't think it will ever be that way.
Well I don't mean some kind of heavenly, utopia type of ideal where there is no killing, no theft or rape. I agree that is always going to happen. What I mean is that people should at least be trying to work towards peace in this one, valuable world.

Life always has its ups and downs. Its obvious this world is not perfect. For example things decay over time - all fruit rots away, cars rust away etc. However, people can make a change. A small change can make a big difference. I heard that Spain under Islamic rule had citizens of different faiths all living together in what was of the most peaceful and prosperous of times in Spainsh history. The Jews never flourished more. This lasted 900 years! - nearly a millenium!. We live today and there is a war nearly every year (?) around the world. Our efforts can be better channeled for peace.
   
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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-06-2008

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Excellent point Whatsthepoint...the Jewish laws are for Jews and the Muslim laws would be for Muslims and not Non-Muslims (that would be ridiculous). No one should force things on others.

If for example you live in the UK as a vegetarian I believe that is your right and nobody should force you to eat any meats whatsoever. Thats the law of the vegetarian - no animal consumption. Likewise these laws would be offered to those who believe and follow them i.e. the Muslims.
So each group in society has it's own laws? So if, say, gays decide that it is okay for them to fornicate on main square you'd be ok with it ;).

Seriously though, I'm not really against this, as long as individuals are free to decide in which 'group' they belong. This shouldn't be based on somekind of 'birth-right', but rather on your beliefs in which groups you belong.

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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-06-2008

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So each group in society has it's own laws? So if, say, gays decide that it is okay for them to fornicate on main square you'd be ok with it ;).

Seriously though, I'm not really against this, as long as individuals are free to decide in which 'group' they belong. This shouldn't be based on somekind of 'birth-right', but rather on your beliefs in which groups you belong.
kading says very wise things. Lets just imagine what if nudists started to demand coming to work nude, or Hindus started to demand not killing cows.
It is also not sure what would be the limits of religious law for muslims, polygamy and ban of conversion also? Because only marriages and divirces ruled by islamic religious law seem to be fine to me. Its just that no one shows the limits of that.
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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-06-2008

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kading says very wise things. Lets just imagine what if nudists started to demand coming to work nude, or Hindus started to demand not killing cows.
It is also not sure what would be the limits of religious law for muslims, polygamy and ban of conversion also? Because only marriages and divirces ruled by islamic religious law seem to be fine to me. Its just that no one shows the limits of that.

Fine let everyone have access to their own laws. Let people go to work nude - let God be the judge. Be fair to all - let everyone have some peace.

What seems fine to you (just marriage and divorce) is your opinion (which of course you are entitled to) and to be straight with you, you are not an authority on Islam (not even being a Muslim) - I mean no disrespect here my brother, just highlighting an important fact, May Allah guide you to good (ameen)!.
   
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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-06-2008

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Fine let everyone have access to their own laws.
This is not so simple my friend.
   
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Default Re: Sharia law 'could have UK role' - 07-07-2008

I think we are mixing things up, the right to live as a citizen and the right to practice religion - However, asking the imposition of a particular law especially in the wake of a non-moslem government might provoke "friction" and could cause segregation.

However,we as Moslems could ask, like Jews have done, to highlight the "nutrition values" highlighting Haram or Halal.
   
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