President John McCain? - Page 3

Ameena* · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Keltoi

How would you know McCain is "mean hearted"? Are you basing that on anything?

He actually said in an interview that terrorists are too busy ''trading burqas''. If that isn't meanhearted, then I don't know what is.

Keltoi · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Sister-Ameena*

He actually said in an interview that terrorists are too busy ''trading burqas''. If that isn't meanhearted, then I don't know what is.

I'm sure he is referring to Taliban controlled Afghanistan. Perhaps a bad joke on his part, but I'm not sure it makes him "mean hearted".

mediadave · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Sister-Ameena*

He actually said in an interview that terrorists are too busy ''trading burqas''. If that isn't meanhearted, then I don't know what is.

Terrorists have hidden in burqas to escape arrest several times. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6624837.stm

The comment may have been careless, but wasn't meanhearted.

Shakoor15 · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

How bout when he said he would not want a Muslim president but would be fine with a morman.

mediadave · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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How bout when he said he would not want a Muslim president but would be fine with a morman.

Did he say that? Note i'm not actually a McCain supporter, not that it would matter as i'm British anyway, but he's always struck me as a man of great personal integrity. I'd still much prefer Obama to get in though.

Obamanation · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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Originally Posted by InfinityRamAir

While this video is telling in its own right, the majority of Americans couldn't care less about the present situation in Iraq and Afghanistan - death, destruction - it doesn't matter. As long as it's not happening here.

What's really scary is that the present administration is comprised of evangelical christians, and McCain is also one of the same. These people are far more concerned about preventing two people of the same sex receiving the same civil rights as themselves than the bloodshed and destruction of tens of thousands in the Middle East. While that is sickening in and of itself, allow me to touch upon issues that are certain to play a large part in this election among the educated - the housing market is collapsing, foreclosure rates are at record highs, the poor and middle class are suffering the worst financial woes in decades, education is being undermined by fundamentalist christians whose purpose is to teach mythology in the science curriculum, and the same want to introduce legislature that would define contraception as abortion (!!!!)

I truly believe that this year will result in a massive turnout in the voting booths -one that will stop the evangelical christian madness that has prevailed over the last eight years.

I honestly don't see McCain as our next president.

Infinity;

I can't imagine a definition of "evangelical Christian" that would include John McCain. Are you kidding? They all voted for Huckaby in the primary. If he loses it will be partly because he won't get "evangelical Christian" votes.

I can see your point about the housing market, though......the link to 2 or 3 school disticts in Tennesse or Iowa teaching Creationsim and rising foreclosure rates is very compelling. Surely they have all gone mad.

BTW...the contraception opposition is largely Roman Catholic not evangelical Christian, but I do realize they all may just seem the same

Keltoi · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Shakoor15

How bout when he said he would not want a Muslim president but would be fine with a morman.

GOP presidential candidate John McCain says America is better off with a Christian President and he doesn't want a Muslim in the Oval Office.

"I admire Islam. There's a lot of good principles in it," he said. "But I just have to say in all candor that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles, personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in my faith."

In a wide-ranging interview about religion and faith with the Web site Beliefnet, McCain said he wouldn't "rule out under any circumstance" someone who wasn't Christian, but said, "I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to lead."

McCain later clarified his remarks, saying, "I would vote for a Muslim if he or she was the candidate best able to lead the country and to defend our political values."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_w...etter_wit.html

Personally I don't find this to be a controversial statement. Most Americans would agree that they feel a Christian president best represents American values. That goes for both Democrats and Republicans.

Aaron85 · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-18-2008

Keltoi,how you think, has McCain chances to gather majority of conservative christians' votes?
They dont like McCain but Obama looks quite radical comparing to him. Obama supports gay ralationships and full abortion demands. Or maybe most of biblical christians wont attend this elections.

Keltoi · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Aaron85

Keltoi,how you think, has McCain chances to gather majority of conservative christians' votes?
They dont like McCain but Obama looks quite radical comparing to him. Obama supports gay ralationships and full abortion demands. Or maybe most of biblical christians wont attend this elections.

I doubt if the so-called Evangelical vote will be as strong this election for McCain, but I imagine most of those Christians who always vote will come out for McCain in great numbers. Having said that, Obama will attract a significant portion of them as well. This is one election where no particular candidate has a monopoly on the Christian vote.

Pygoscelis · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

I always found it interesting that there even is such a thing as the "christian vote", which Bush leveraged so well to win his elections. There is no "atheist vote" (we never agree on anything). Is there a "muslim vote"?

Skye Ephémérine · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

This country isn't ready for a black president, anymore than it is ready for a female president.. mcCrap will most likely win and we are looking at bush all over again..

I am sure his torture was composed of having to peel stacks of potatoes.. hard to believe any of those mollycoddled wasps do anything sacrificial for the service of other people...

as usual here are your two choices for presidential candidates kang & kodos

InfinityRamAir · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine

This country isn't ready for a black president, anymore than it is ready for a female president.. mcCrap will most likely win and we are looking at bush all over again..

I am sure his torture was composed of having to peel stacks of potatoes.. hard to believe any of those mollycoddled wasps do anything sacrificial for the service of other people...

as usual here are your two choices for presidential candidates kang & kodos

What else can I possibly say?

InfinityRamAir · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Aaron85

...but Obama looks quite radical comparing to him. Obama supports gay ralationships and full abortion demands. Or maybe most of biblical christians wont attend this elections.

Obama supports gay relationships? Oh, that's really radical, isn't it? We should always strive, as good christians, to suppress any civil rights for those abominations! Heaven forbid I should be able to visit my lifetime partner on his deathbed in the hospital. Heaven forbid I should receive social security benefits from the federal government upon his death. Heaven forbid if every dime he earned, upon his death, went to me. Such good christian principles, don't you think?

Full abortion demands? Exactly what do you mean? Considering the fact that the vast majority of abortions are requested from good christian women who were taught "abstinence only" sex education - promoted by, yes, you've got it, christians, are you willing and financially able to raise these "children" yourself? I certainly hope so, as foster homes in this country are unable to take care of unwanted children as it is.

Radical indeed - in fundamentalist christianity.

Aaron85 · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

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Originally Posted by InfinityRamAir

Obama supports gay relationships? Oh, that's really radical, isn't it? We should always strive, as good christians, to suppress any civil rights for those abominations! Heaven forbid I should be able to visit my lifetime partner on his deathbed in the hospital. Heaven forbid I should receive social security benefits from the federal government upon his death. Heaven forbid if every dime he earned, upon his death, went to me. Such good christian principles, don't you think?

Full abortion demands? Exactly what do you mean? Considering the fact that the vast majority of abortions are requested from good christian women who were taught "abstinence only" sex education - promoted by, yes, you've got it, christians, are you willing and financially able to raise these "children" yourself? I certainly hope so, as foster homes in this country are unable to take care of unwanted children as it is.

Radical indeed - in fundamentalist christianity.

I could answer you, but this would be off topic

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Keltoi · **Re: President John McCain? -** 08-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Skye Ephémérine

This country isn't ready for a black president, anymore than it is ready for a female president.. mcCrap will most likely win and we are looking at bush all over again..

I am sure his torture was composed of having to peel stacks of potatoes.. hard to believe any of those mollycoddled wasps do anything sacrificial for the service of other people...

as usual here are your two choices for presidential candidates kang & kodos

For a black candidate to win the Democratic nomination for president and be tied in the polls with a Republican candidate who is a Vietnam veteran seems to reject your premise. Obama has a very good chance of being the next U.S. president.

As for your nice little racist comment about wasps I'll let that speak for itself.

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Shakoor15 LI Senior Member Status: Online Posts: 461 Reputation: 1760 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: President John McCain? - 08-18-2008 How bout when he said he would not want a Muslim president but would be fine with a morman. __________________

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Aaron85 LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,552 Reputation: 2666 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: From Mars...To Sirius. Gender: Way of Life: Christian	Re: President John McCain? - 08-18-2008 Keltoi,how you think, has McCain chances to gather majority of conservative christians' votes? They dont like McCain but Obama looks quite radical comparing to him. Obama supports gay ralationships and full abortion demands. Or maybe most of biblical christians wont attend this elections. __________________ Right from the beginning.

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Pygoscelis LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 1,457 Reputation: 2948 Rep Power: 17 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Way of Life: Atheist	Re: President John McCain? - 08-19-2008 I always found it interesting that there even is such a thing as the "christian vote", which Bush leveraged so well to win his elections. There is no "atheist vote" (we never agree on anything). Is there a "muslim vote"?

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Skye Ephémérine Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,855 Reputation: 52870 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: President John McCain? - 08-19-2008 This country isn't ready for a black president, anymore than it is ready for a female president.. mcCrap will most likely win and we are looking at bush all over again.. I am sure his torture was composed of having to peel stacks of potatoes.. hard to believe any of those mollycoddled wasps do anything sacrificial for the service of other people... as usual here are your two choices for presidential candidates kang & kodos __________________ *For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary.* Tous articles prohibés sont sujets à saisie