so many muslims have said muslims who wear the niqaab are extreme muslims and i hate hearing this i dont want to be labelled an extreme muslim i dont want people to be afraid of me. when a person is not being called extreme then they say that your trying to dress like an arab by wearing black. i am hearing this crap from the mouths of muslims and not from non muslims. they verbally attacked my friend once for wearing the niqaab and the gloves also.

Even though I think the Burka is utterly ridiculous, I see this new proposal as equally ridiculous. It's an irrational response to a rational concern, and even though France clearly isn't very happy about giving equal rights to Muslims- they've made this perfectly clear in the past- I do think this is an extreme measure. Muslims are 8% of France, surely the French government must acknowledge some Muslims may try and fight this?

I think that's totally out of order

Originally Posted by Airforce

Double standards, they dont mind the Nuns wearing their Burkhas but have a problem with Muslims wearing them

Frenchs understand nuns wear they hijab as for they Lord but they can´t understand muslim sisters do it by same reason.

I use just hijab but if I ever travel to France after kind of law I will wear niqab as protest they law against my rights to follow my religion.

750 euros?!

Behind a woman's veil is not her height in cash, you crazy French politicians, you.

Unless they think burkha-clad women resemble ninjas, and want to give the term 'stealth tax' a puntastic new meaning.

If French politicians thinks to "liberate" muslim sisters by this they are wrong. Those whose can´t pay it will stay at home - what is opposite of idelialism of European feminists whose want all women out of they homes.

Originally Posted by The_Prince

we should start fining western women who arent properly covered up in the Muslim world. if their in skirts, shorts, arms out, fine them.

According to me there is no such thing as the 'Muslim world' or a 'Muslim Country'. All these so called Muslim countries are just puppets of Europe and America. They would never implement such a law as it would mean that this would ruin their relations with these western countries. It doesn't matter to them how the west is reacting to Islam and treating their Muslim brothers and sisters.

I don't see what the big deal is about wearing a niqaab/burkah in public. If a sister wants to wear it and she is wearing it for Allah, then she should be free to do so without wearing about if she is going to have to pay.. Adhubillah.
I do understand some concerns though as far as banking. I know of banks where it is required for your face not to be covered (in any way even ski masks) when making a transaction. That is for the individuals protection so that they can be identified. Of course a sister wearing niqaab or burkah could avoid this by having a joint account with husband or another family member and just send them to do the transactions.

Originally Posted by sister harb

Frenchs understand nuns wear they hijab as for they Lord but they can´t understand muslim sisters do it by same reason.

I use just hijab but if I ever travel to France after kind of law I will wear niqab as protest they law against my rights to follow my religion.

From the below site you can see that the Burkha/Veil/Scarf is there in every major religion yet these french secular hypocrites only target islam.

http://fantasia4ever.blogspot.com/20...1_archive.html

In secular society people acting on their religions should not be given special treatment or mistreatment. If you do X, it shouldn't matter why you did it, it should be treated the same as others doing X. Not better and not worse. There's no excuse for banning muslims from covering their faces for religious reasons if others can cover their faces for other reasons.

Originally Posted by Supreme

Even though I think the Burka is utterly ridiculous, I see this new proposal as equally ridiculous. It's an irrational response to a rational concern, and even though France clearly isn't very happy about giving equal rights to Muslims- they've made this perfectly clear in the past- I do think this is an extreme measure. Muslims are 8% of France, surely the French government must acknowledge some Muslims may try and fight this?

What I find ridiculous is that women can strip off and walk around completely naked on french beaches and not get fined for it, yet you get fined for covering up

According to me there is no such thing as the 'Muslim world' or a 'Muslim Country'. All these so called Muslim countries are just puppets of Europe and America. They would never implement such a law as it would mean that this would ruin their relations with these western countries. It doesn't matter to them how the west is reacting to Islam and treating their Muslim brothers and sisters.

There is no such thing as a 'Muslim' country or a 'Christian' country or a 'white' country or a 'black' country- there is only such thing as a human country.

In secular society people acting on their religions should not be given special treatment or mistreatment. If you do X, it shouldn't matter why you did it, it should be treated the same as others doing X. Not better and not worse. There's no excuse for banning muslims from covering their faces for religious reasons if others can cover their faces for other reasons.

Exactly, secular society has yet to treat religious folk as equals. You either ban all religious clothing in public or none at all- how can you ban the burka and not the crucifix? Or the turban and not the kippa?

What I find ridiculous is that women can strip off and walk around completely naked on french beaches and not get fined for it, yet you get fined for coveri

That's your opinion; however, let's not turn a thread about the incompetence of the French government into a discussion about nudist beaches.

Then they talk of freedom.

Impostors

Even though I think the Burka is utterly ridiculous, I see this new proposal as equally ridiculous. It's an irrational response to a rational concern, and even though France clearly isn't very happy about giving equal rights to Muslims- they've made this perfectly clear in the past- I do think this is an extreme measure. Muslims are 8% of France, surely the French government must acknowledge some Muslims may try and fight this?

i think it beats your *wannabe* attitude any day.

Originally Posted by Supreme

There is no such thing as a 'Muslim' country or a 'Christian' country or a 'white' country or a 'black' country- there is only such thing as a human country.

I think you did not get my point, I know that there is no such country for one set of beliefs/race etc. What I meant was a country which is governed by Islamic laws (Shariah), I do not believe that there is such a country.