I'm also pleased the Prime Minister has promised £6 million of aid to the Haitians.

Originally Posted by KAding

For Pete's sake people. Even a thread about an earthquake turns into a US-bashing thread . I'm sure the US is thrilled about the prospect of having to send hundreds of millions more in aid to Haiti.

the U.S. government was able to give more than a trillion dollars in hand outs to banks and business' during an ECONAMIC CRISIS, and your trying to make the U.S look so holy and great because they have given 100 million to haiti? thats like giving peanuts away.

as others have said, U.S. foreign aid is really nothing when anyone actually compares the numbers and stats to other things they spend money on. and im not complaining neither, the U.S. doesnt have to give anything away, but please oh please dont come here with that silly propaganda that the U.S. always gives so muchhhhh to outsiders when the reality shows that what they actually give, isnt much at all. as i said, its like giving peanuts away.

800 billion dollars sure would look good for haiti right now, what do you say? i think that would be much better money spent than handing it out to rich bankers.

If a secular state such as Canada or the US can be so moral that they are sending aid money, then what need is for a Sharia state? I am sure no Muslim country has given that much aid yet?

Originally Posted by Wa7abiScientist

If a secular state such as Canada or the US can be so moral that they are sending aid money, then what need is for a Sharia state? I am sure no Muslim country has given that much aid yet?

This is when it is critical for any Sharia state to send as much as they can, to help prevent the secular aid from becoming a leash around the necks of those getting aid.

Originally Posted by The_Prince

the U.S. government was able to give more than a trillion dollars in hand outs to banks and business' during an ECONAMIC CRISIS, and your trying to make the U.S look so holy and great because they have given 100 million to haiti? thats like giving peanuts away.

as others have said, U.S. foreign aid is really nothing when anyone actually compares the numbers and stats to other things they spend money on. and im not complaining neither, the U.S. doesnt have to give anything away, but please oh please dont come here with that silly propaganda that the U.S. always gives so muchhhhh to outsiders when the reality shows that what they actually give, isnt much at all. as i said, its like giving peanuts away.

800 billion dollars sure would look good for haiti right now, what do you say? i think that would be much better money spent than handing it out to rich bankers.

Err...Please calm down. My only point was that disasters like this costs them money and they gain nothing from it. Thus creating a earthquake from their secret facility in Alaska isn't very productive. I wasn't making "silly propaganda that the U.S. always gives so muchhhhh to outsiders". You are just trying to overanalyze my post.

Originally Posted by Woodrow

This is when it is critical for any Sharia state to send as much as they can, to help prevent the secular aid from becoming a leash around the necks of those getting aid.

Thats true, aid coming from secular nations usually has alot of strings attached to it.
I remember some african country didn't accept US aid because of that same reason

Originally Posted by Woodrow

This is when it is critical for any Sharia state to send as much as they can, to help prevent the secular aid from becoming a leash around the necks of those getting aid.

Secular aid as a 'leash around the necks'? What are you talking about exactly?

Originally Posted by KAding

Secular aid as a 'leash around the necks'? What are you talking about exactly?

Probably you have never heard of the Republic of Lakotah, which is where I now live. On the Pine Ridge Oglala Sioux Nation we have accepted USA aid in the past, as a result Pine ridge is the second most poverty stricken region in the western hemiphere, only Haiti is more impoverished. As a result of the aid the heritage and culture has been nearly destroyed. The schools that came in have almost eliminated the Lakotah language less than 10% of the children now speak Lakotah, the children are being taught to become was'i'chu abandon the Lakotah way and leave the Rez. Teen age suicide rate is the highest in the world, life expectancy is the lowest in the world, unemployment at 90% is the highest in the world, Christianity is close to being mandatory, practice of any other religion is highly discourged, the mesage we are getting is do it the was'i'chu way and forget the way of the Lakotah. Pine Ridge is the Gaza of the Western Hemisphere. Accepting aid from the was'i'chu carried with it the hidden chain of "become was'i'chu or suffer more."

You cannot compare the "aid" given to the Native Americans to the aid being sent to Haiti right now. It is an apples and oranges situation.

The money and "support" to the native tribes was a misguided attempt to "civilize" them. What is going on in Haiti is not comparable and I know of no strings attached. These two situations should not be put in the same boat.

I remember some african country didn't accept US aid because of that same reason

If anything there needs to be more strings attached to much of the aid to Africa, but that is a different topic.

What about when they are not waving it to public,He's NOT showing it to anyone, just hanging his hand down....

like standing beside Queen,,,!!! White house representative..... Satanic worshippers....

You really need to be more critical of such theories. Falling for them hook line and sinker like you have with such little information (and bad information at that) does not reflect well on you. It is amazing that you still find straws to grasp on to when most of the pictures you posted as proof have already been discredited, and the others would be also if we had video or context to put them in.

Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers,


What happened in Haiti its very sad, about 100 000 dead only in 1 minut.

I ask Allah SWT to give them strenght and to forgive them and to give them paradise insha allah, Amine.


Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers peace be upon to you all.



PS : I ask every one of you to pray for Haiti

Originally Posted by thetruth2009

Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers,


What happened in Haiti its very sad, about 100 000 dead only in 1 minut.

I ask Allah SWT to give them strenght and to forgive them and to give them paradise insha allah, Amine.


Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers peace be upon to you all.



PS : I ask every one of you to pray for Haiti

since that conforms to the topic of the thread. I believe it best we continue the thread along that line and save any debates for separate threads.

The immediate goal is to get needed help,comfort and aid to those in need.

I've removed all the posts pertaining to conspiracy theories. Some of them were very entertaining, but the proper place for science fiction and fantasy is the Creative Writing and Art forum.

I guess IB has a donation fund now and lets dig into our pockets as much as we can

Please lets us give up one week of eating outside and donate that to hati .

http://jannahrelief.com

or you can go to www.redcross.org or www.unicef.org


If mods/admins want they can use this banner to put up on homepage.

It looks like the Americans are dominating the relief effort, even sending an aircraft carrier with aid on to Haiti. I saw images of the Haitians today on the news, some people were crowding outside a church, others were congregating in and open air hospital with no doctors or nurses. The saddest part was a dead baby wrapped up and left for dead at the roadside.