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    Default New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

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    A new poll of Arab opinion finds that for the first time a majority of the public across the region – including a sizable minority in Saudi Arabia – believes a nuclear-armed Iran would be a positive development in the Middle East.

    The portion of the Arab population thinking that way has doubled since a similar survey a year ago, in part because of huge majorities this year in Egypt and Morocco. Egypt, which makes up a quarter of the Arab world, was not in last year’s survey.

    The findings, however, say less about a change in Arab opinions of Iran than they do about a change in opinions about another country, say the organizers of the 2010 Arab Public Opinion Poll: Arabs have soured on the United States of Barack Obama.

    The poll finds that Arabs have traded in last year’s “wait-and-see” attitude toward the new American president in favor of something much more negative, and the support for Iran is, in many ways, being seen as one part of that anger.

    “What this poll reveals is a backlash against the United States, reflecting the loss of hope that people had in what they thought were to be the policies of the new President Obama,” says Shibley Telhami, a University of Maryland Middle East expert, who conducted the poll with the polling firm Zogby International. “It’s really people venting by supporting ‘the enemy of my enemy.’”

    Enemy again
    This year’s poll finds that large majorities of Arabs list the United States and Israel as the region’s worst enemies, far above Iran. The US returns to one of the top rungs of the “enemies list” after having been judged positively by a small majority of Arabs last year, a shift from past years that Mr. Telhami qualifies as nothing short of “amazing” given longstanding Arab views of the US.

    In 2009, 51 percent of the public was “optimistic” about the US. This year, nearly two-thirds say they are “discouraged” about America’s actions in the region.

    The specific reasons for the shift: disappointment over the lack of progress on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and a perception of little change in US Iraq policy.

    Describing a “triangulation” of Arab opinion, Telhami says, “Arab views of the US are formed largely through the prism of the Arab-Israeli issue. And Arab views of Iran are very much the function of views of the US and prospects for peace in the Middle East.”

    When asked to name two countries they see posing the biggest threat to their country, 77 percent named the US (second only to Israel) while Iran was named by 10 percent – down from 13 percent last year. At the same time, however, majorities in several countries, including the United Arab Emirates, Lebanon, and 52 percent in Saudi Arabia, say it would be “mostly negative” if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons.

    Bad information?
    Still, this image of an Iran of little overall threat to the region contrasts starkly with the view advanced by US officials that Arab countries fear the consequences of a nuclear Iran.

    That US perspective is more the result of positions diplomats hear from Arab leaders who are not always in synch with their publics, Telhami says. “Arab governments are more worried about the prospects of a nuclear Iran than the publics are,” he says.

    Still, the poll does not reveal any surging support for Iran. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad does move up slightly in the estimation of Arabs, but his small rise as an “admired” leader is nothing compared to that of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who rode his reputation for standing up to Israel (and the United States) to take the top spot in the “admired leader” category.

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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    these people are lost. they think Iran can solve our problems when in fact they are the worser enemy than the Zionists/Israel.

    the problem of (cant think of a better word) stupidity stems from nationalism and not religion. these people are simply fooled.


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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    these arabs must be stupid to think shiite rafidas are gonna save the ummah, they'll only help their own kind and once they have enough power they'll invade saudi and 'reclaim' the two holy masjids



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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    these arabs must be stupid to think shiite rafidas are gonna save the ummah, they'll only help their own kind and once they have enough power they'll invade saudi and 'reclaim' the two holy masjids
    Is this prophesied somewhere or what?
    Last edited by 'Abd Al-Maajid; 08-10-2010 at 11:26 AM.



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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    these arabs must be stupid to think shiite rafidas are gonna save the ummah, they'll only help their own kind and once they have enough power they'll invade saudi and 'reclaim' the two holy masjids
    I feel that those Shia are more dangerous to our Ummah than its other enemies!


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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    This attitude perfectly illustrates why Muslims are suffering so much. Nobody is in a position to declare all shias as being out of the fold of Islam. There might be many sunnis who are out of the fold of Islam too...
    Last edited by Argamemnon; 08-10-2010 at 01:45 PM.

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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    these arabs must be stupid to think shiite rafidas are gonna save the ummah, they'll only help their own kind and once they have enough power they'll invade saudi and 'reclaim' the two holy masjids
    You can say the exact same thing for Arabs "they will only help their own kind".. or Turks, Indonesians, Malaysians...

    Do you think Saudis care more about Palestinians and Lebanese than say Iran?

    Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other Muslim countries participated in Operation Desert Slaughter. Today they are still cooperating with the enemies of Islam.. the truth is no Muslim country is in a position to criticize the other, but if they do, someone should tell them to look in the mirror...
    Last edited by Argamemnon; 08-10-2010 at 01:42 PM.

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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Can anyone tell me why are Shiites not considered as Muslims by some people?



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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulmājid View Post
    Can anyone tell me why are Shiites not considered as Muslims by some people?
    salaam

    They are Muslims even if they do curse the Sahaba

    The shia are not worse then the Zionist - Iran is the only country which is going head to head against the Zionist. The only country that actually has the courage to stand up against them.

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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    salaam

    They are Muslims even if they do curse the Sahaba

    The shia are not worse then the Zionist - Iran is the only country which is going head to head against the Zionist. The only country that actually has the courage to stand up against them.

    peace
    They curse the sahaba? I have a friend who is a Shiite...



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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by Zafran View Post
    salaam

    They are Muslims even if they do curse the Sahaba
    have you got any scholarly evidence for that?





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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulmājid View Post


    They curse the sahaba? I have a friend who is a Shiite...
    Some of them really do....especially Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman radiallaahum ajma'een. These kinds of people are the worst of creation. But those shias that do not insult the sahabaas we do not say anything about them.

    There are some moderate shias like the zaidees who are very much similar to the sunnis because of their beliefs and practices.


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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    ^ DO we have any Shiites on board who can explain this...?
    Last edited by 'Abd Al-Maajid; 08-10-2010 at 02:08 PM.



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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulmājid View Post


    They curse the sahaba? I have a friend who is a Shiite...
    Salaam

    Intresting but they dont like Umar (ra) and Abu Bakr (ra) and many of the sahaba - they have stroies that they believe in............

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    Default Re: New poll: angry at US, Arabs support an Iran nuclear bomb

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulmājid View Post
    ^ DO we have some Shiites on board who can explain this...?
    Salaam

    It would be a good idea to actually talk to your friend -

    peace


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