Originally Posted by sardab

Thank you sis. I understand you. But I have objections.

Muslim minorities in the west needs rehabilitation (by themselves). But part of this rehabilitation needs standing upright and defending one's honour. Muslims children are easy prey to western culture, because they are not proud of their own culture, and because they do not see their parents stand fest.

So, the leaders of the Muslims community should have waited until the issue was clarified. Because everyone is innocent until the end of trial. This is a basic principle. Something which you should also keep in mind against black people, I think.

I agree with you Bro on the last comment but its a shame that now the times have come to this. Think about when you hear of a bombing even as a Muslim you KNOW that Muslims and Terroism is gonna be behind this. This is what media and society have put into our minds.

I mean i was listening to Zakir Naik speech that day and he was saying that how Childrens Riddles and Ryhmes actually put false messages in the childs mind. This is done without we even knowing.

I think the Imam never make a mistake in my opinion. I think he acted in a way that was mature and think about it Bro its really the media and those accussing that got the dirt in thier face.

They plan but Allah is best of planners Bro

Originally Posted by sardab

Thank you sis. I understand you. But I have objections.

Muslim minorities in the west needs rehabilitation (by themselves). But part of this rehabilitation needs standing upright and defending one's honour. Muslims children are easy prey to western culture, because they are not proud of their own culture, and because they do not see their parents stand fest.

So, the leaders of the Muslims community should have waited until the issue was clarified. Because everyone is innocent until the end of trial. This is a basic principle. Something which you should also keep in mind against black people, I think.

you are very right dear brother im form london and i totally understand where you are coming from.....surprised that no one else does.....:brother:

Originally Posted by meknesi

you are very right dear brother im form london and i totally understand where you are coming from.....surprised that no one else does.....:brother:

I'm trying hard to see what clue you see bro. Perhaps my nick, which will lead you to a false conlusion. I'm not from the country you think. But I really wonder what would that change?

First I felt negative satire for that country in your message, but after reading again I think I was wrong. Sorry bro.

Originally Posted by sardab

Well I dont understand why you cant see the point.

Muslim minorities are stereotyped in Europe. They are either terrorists or bandits. They are biased against Muslims not because Muslims are terrorists and bandits, they are biased because Muslims are "the others".

When such events occur their fingers directly shows Muslims. That is understandable given their egocentric culture. But what I dont understand is why Muslims accept these claim without examining. Muslims started to see their fellow people from the eye of Europeans, which is a sign of slave mentality.

The imam's sermon has no problem in itself, but the reason it is given makes me sick. Muslims can go nowhere with this mentality.

I disagree. Those of Moroccan descent, the biggest immigrant group in Belgium, are about 10 times as likely to commit a crime, that is why they are suspected. Crime is rampant among Muslim immigrants. Research has shown it can't all be explained by looking at economic conditions either, since countries like Belgium and Holland have strong welfare systems.

IMHO many of these 'so-called' Muslims are not good Muslims, since they would not commit so much crime if they would follow Islam!

Originally Posted by KAding

I disagree. Those of Moroccan descent, the biggest immigrant group in Belgium, are about 10 times as likely to commit a crime, that is why they are suspected. Crime is rampant among Muslim immigrants. Research has shown it can't all be explained by looking at economic conditions either, since countries like Belgium and Holland have strong welfare systems.

IMHO many of these 'so-called' Muslims are not good Muslims, since they would not commit so much crime if they would follow Islam!

Crime is rampant because they are lost, they are grinded between their own culture and western culture. They are not proud of who they are, they are not accepted either by the countries which they serve.

"They will not accept us unless we accept their religion." Liberal lies are coming to an end. The life is getting messy for Muslims all around Europe. The only solution is to turn back to our roots. This requires standing erect, keeping our honour, and rejecting any negative stereotype. We are not potential [put all negative images west associates with Islam and Muslims]