Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen

Yes right...they say "too many ulama", but its ulama in whose eyes? Is it in awwam peoples eyes? Or in kibaar Ulama's eyes? Cause so many people claim them self al ulama without any recomendation from kibaar ulama. We should read fatawa from Ulama Salaf cause theyre ulama warosatul anbiya. And theyre free of any importancy,they have no oraganization, they have no leader except Allah and Rasulullah, they are not taqlid with any mahdhab, and they dont afraid of anything to defend Islam.
And Lets say if you hear ulama like syaikh Al Qardhawi, its wellknown that Syaikh Al Qardhawi support Al Ikhwanul muslimeen in Egypt, so in some part of his fatawa, its abvious that his fatawa being brought to the harokah importancy. And their importancy is one of his consideration in giving fatawa. The prove is He allow suicide bombing in Palestine. Ulama salaf forbid it cause its clearly a suicide, but syaikh Al Qardhawi hafidhahullah allow it. Its the difference of their ilm, its abvious masha Allah.

subhanALlah this both scared me and raised a lot of questions and doubts in my heart but i cant ask due to forum rulings

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

The turban part is true, but the beard is clearly an obligation in Islam.

Shaykh Haytham Tameem from Utrujj foundation www.utrujj.com said noone should make the beard a sixth pillar of Islam!...there are far more important things..like praying, helping the poor etc

terima kasih brother north malaysian for that superb article...though i donot agree with the school excluding those students..i think the arguments put forth by the Judge were superb..

Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen

And...mmmm...I have to remind you also that syaikh Qardhawi are wrong and weird in his fatawas. And I heard that his aqidah is asy'ariy.

My aqidah is according to ash'ari too, as well as 90% of Malaysians. Most Malaysians are opposed to Salafism. In fact in the state of Kedah, Salafi (a.k.a. Wahhabi is declared as heretic teaching). Only one state recognizes Salafism as official mazhab, namely Perlis.

I'm not oppose to Salafism, Ash'arism, Shiism, Sufism, Liberal Islam.. whatever because for me .. all of 'em are Muslims.

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

The turban part is true, but the beard is clearly an obligation in Islam.

I've heard many scholars refuting the argum,ent that the turban is not a sunnah. The arguments used are that if you wear the turban out of the love of the prophet PBUH to get reward, as is the case in islam, then no doubt Allah SWT will give you the reward, and nobody can deny this. Also a scholar once replied to someone who said it was just culture to wear a turban, to which he replied, "Then i prefer the culture of the Prophet PBUH, the culture Allah SWT prefered for him to be a part of"

But like the article you provided, i've heard several other similar opinions, so there is clearly difference of opinion amongst the scholars, but from what i've seen most scholars agree that wearing thowbs and turbans are part of the sunnah

what does a moslem brother commit when he doesn't have both? is it a sin?

no it isnt a sin but in Islam men should ideally have facial hair since thats part of their nature...and i really dont see it as obligatory as many scholars especially in Syria, North Africa etc dont have any beards...the turban part is cultural and its not exclusive to any culture..the hindus wear it..the sikhs do, the pagan arabs did.

sister the way you put it across sounds somewhat degrading of the turban. The sikhs have beards, the jews have beards? Nabi Muhammed pbuh had a way of wearing his imamah/turban. That was to be different from others by wearing a hat underneath. Like the brother said, if its to show your love for the prophet of allah, then surely allah will favour those and have a reward for them put aside. Allah u alim.

and about the beard issue, does it make a differenfce if scholars from some parts of the arab world do not have beards. does that make it any less important in they eyes of those that want to follow that which was orderd by the nabi of allah? Not to me. If we live of what other people do and thinks it ok because they do it, it doesnt neccesarily make it the right answer.

Inshallah those that truley follow the sunnah of muhammed pbuh for the sake of gaining the pleasure of their lord will be rewarded.

Originally Posted by scentsofjannah

Shaykh Haytham Tameem from Utrujj foundation www.utrujj.com said noone should make the beard a sixth pillar of Islam!...there are far more important things..like praying, helping the poor etc

terima kasih brother north malaysian for that superb article...though i donot agree with the school excluding those students..i think the arguments put forth by the Judge were superb..

Sister i disagree with you here. For a muslim whose trying to practice his deen, ,every small aspect of his religion matters. From the way he wears his clothes to whether he wears his shoes in the masjid or not. It's just WRONG to say that some part of this religion is "unimportant" because there are hungry people out there. You can keep your beard and feed the hungry people. nothing hard about that. And it's CLEAR that beard is fardh. wajib. Why do you want to go against that?

You know what today people make a big issue out of the beard. The answer is simple, obey allah and obey his nabi. Obey meaning to follow what was sent down to muahmmed pbuh and practiced by him. follow what he followed and stay away from that which he did not. Yes do not make it a sixt pillar. Yes feed the poor keep fast do hajj, we should be doing that regardless if we have a bead or not. To negate something because you dont have the knowledge or criteria as some people say is not the right way. You should do what ever good you can, when you can.

Originally Posted by scentsofjannah

and i really dont see it as obligatory as many scholars especially in Syria, North Africa etc dont have any beards....

In southeast Asia too.