Quruxbadaan, you are most kind in your reply, Thanks, it is refreshing.

However I am not so sure you didn’t misunderstand my prior post.

My point was that Hezbollah not being control by the Lebanon’s duly elected government is the problem.

You seemed to indicate, from reading your posts, that you saw the main problem as Hezbollah’s lack of control over the government, as opposed to the lack of the governments ability to control Hezbollah.

Sorry if I miss-read your posts.

Thanks
Nimrod

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

honestly its soo like the people of Isreal to go and hide behind what happend in the holocaust to justify their barbaric and disgusting actions

The people of Israel? Nice racial slur, good one. All Israelis are barbarians that use past issues to justify their brutal actions.

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

As a matter of fact before Zionism came into the picture the the jews and the muslims have lived peacefully for hundreds of years under islamic protection perhaps you should catch up a little on history before the holocaust ( as hard as they may be for you )

History also records that in 1929 things got pretty nasty for the jews, as there were arab riots and they killed jews and forced them out. perhaps you should read a little more history (as hard as that ma....)

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

Im not surprised at all that you resort to acusing somebody of Anti-semitism
Ameen

This is not at all different from people like yourself claiming that everyone else is anti-muslim. It is a little annoying to deal with, no?

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

if they wanted to disarm hezbollah they could have done so with little casualties but nobody wants to believe that fact
instead everybody wants to say ohh poor isreal got attacked by the big bad hezbollah

Unlikely. Hezbollah is well armed. Disarming them no matter how it is done would not be easy, large numbers of casualties should be expected.

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

COMPARE DEATH TOLLS !!!!
this is so disgusting

Comparing death tolls is irrelavent. The israeli army has superior training, equipment, and weapons. Why would they not use the advantage? It would be illogical to fight at a reduced capacity to fight "fair". Of course the death tolls are different.
Hezbollah is not innocent of killing. If they had the weapons that the IDF had, the civilian deaths would be very high in Israel as well.
Hezbollah is shooting rockets into Israel. They don't care where they land, as long as they kill. Soldiers, children, elderly..... whatever.

Originally Posted by MRR

The people of Israel? Nice racial slur, good one. All Israelis are barbarians that use past issues to justify their brutal actions.


History also records that in 1929 things got pretty nasty for the jews, as there were arab riots and they killed jews and forced them out. perhaps you should read a little more history (as hard as that ma....)



This is not at all different from people like yourself claiming that everyone else is anti-muslim. It is a little annoying to deal with, no?


Unlikely. Hezbollah is well armed. Disarming them no matter how it is done would not be easy, large numbers of casualties should be expected.


Comparing death tolls is irrelavent. The israeli army has superior training, equipment, and weapons. Why would they not use the advantage? It would be illogical to fight at a reduced capacity to fight "fair". Of course the death tolls are different.
Hezbollah is not innocent of killing. If they had the weapons that the IDF had, the civilian deaths would be very high in Israel as well.
Hezbollah is shooting rockets into Israel. They don't care where they land, as long as they kill. Soldiers, children, elderly..... whatever.

Listen my answer to you is gonna be very simple because i have very little time to argue with you

the bottom line is exxesive force is being used without proper reason
innocent lives are being taken and its being blamed on hezbollah

the fact of the matter is that according to Isreal the violent murder of hundreds of children is justifyable bby the kidnapping of two soldiers


im not gonna try to jam the truth down your throat because its Allah who guides
I have read about the riots in august of 1929 and you fail to mention that altho 133 jews were killed there were also 116 arabs who died in that struggle its been a long one between the arabs and the jews and you only mention one side of the tale as tho to fool somebody
try again


Isreal is being provided for by AMerica and i completly understand that in a war there will be colateral damadge however this is just barbaric and its blatantly deliberate and to me its laughable that you cant see that

like i said times of struggle for the muslims is predicted Allah is the best of planners

peace

p.s I like how you copy and paste my words to sound how you want them too

Originally Posted by nimrod

Quruxbadaan, you are most kind in your reply, Thanks, it is refreshing.

However I am not so sure you didn’t misunderstand my prior post.

My point was that Hezbollah not being control by the Lebanon’s duly elected government is the problem.

You seemed to indicate, from reading your posts, that you saw the main problem as Hezbollah’s lack of control over the government, as opposed to the lack of the governments ability to control Hezbollah.

Sorry if I miss-read your posts.

Thanks
Nimrod

Nimrod, Thank you. perhaps you and i have misunderstood eachother

its either you have misunderstood my post or I have misunderstood yours either way its okay
let me try to explain what i mean

I dont mean that the main problem is hezbollahs lack of control Hezbollah is blamewortthy of ferociouse acts of murder and is aslo a problem in this struggle however i simply meant to point out that hezbollah only controls a minorty of the seats in the government (which was a democratically elected one)
this was said in response to a certain individual who was claiming otherwise on the thread (whoes name i wont point out)

I understand your point All i was mentioning was that hezbollah controls a minority of lebanons government ( not to say that this is a good thing or that this is a bad thing)

Thanks Nimrod for your reply Im still searching for that article as soon as i get my hands on it i will make sure to post it up

Im glad that you and I can speak to eachother without a tone of hostility i respect your views and Im glad that we can disagree with eachother respectfully

hey I will go back and read your post again to see if i misunderstood the first time

peace

Originally Posted by DaNgErOuS MiNdS

I can't believe this guy is trying to justify all the deaths in Lebanon because there is more violence going on in the rest of the world.

I think the deaths of innocents are sad but can easily be justified, this article did a beautiful job doing just that.

Originally Posted by searchingsoul

I think the deaths of innocents are sad but can easily be justified, this article did a beautiful job doing just that.

Inncoent deaths cannot be justified, and the article's persuasiveness is unsatisfactory.

The artical was written by a lebonese arab!

But of course his opinion could matter less to you.

This is not about Lebonon or its people. This is about the destruction of Israel.

Originally Posted by Zionazi_Dissent

Inncoent deaths cannot be justified, and the article's persuasiveness is unsatisfactory.

Yes, they can be justified. It's called war.

I dont understand how somebody can say that the deaths of innocent lives is justifyable honestly

she wouldnt be singing the same tune if it were her family or her being victimized and raped inside out

HYPOCRITES im not gonna get into anything Im sick of this

I cant even believe this forum will allow these things to be posted!!! Wallahi it makes me sick to my stomach that people think this way
but its okay in the end because they are misguided and all we can do is make dua that Allah bless them with his infinite mercy to see the true light of Islam

and he is Al hakim and he is the best of Planners

Maa salaama

Originally Posted by lavikor201

This is not about Lebonon or its people. This is about the destruction of Israel.

This is about the destruction of Israel and the failure the country of Lebanon to control Hezbollah! Inaction comes across as acceptance.

Originally Posted by Quruxbadaan

I dont understand how somebody can say that the deaths of innocent lives is justifyable honestly

she wouldnt be singing the same tune if it were her family or her being victimized and raped inside out

HYPOCRITES im not gonna get into anything Im sick of this

I cant even believe this forum will allow these things to be posted!!! Wallahi it makes me sick to my stomach that people think this way
but its okay in the end because they are misguided and all we can do is make dua that Allah bless them with his infinite mercy to see the true light of Islam

and he is Al hakim and he is the best of Planners

Maa salaama

Some of my people have been "vicimized and raped inside out", but over time my family moved on and allowed time to heal.

I think death of innocents is horrific. I also see war as a necessary evil.

Originally Posted by searchingsoul

Yes, they can be justified. It's called war.

A war is a confrontation between two or more armed forces.

Deaths of innocent civilains are inexcusable. That is exactly what the spokesman for Israel said about Qana.

Its pretty obvious that you're biased and see one group of people more valuable than another.

WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER IF HES LEBANESE

THAT MAKES HIM RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

FRANKLY I THINK HES A FOOL AND SHOULD KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT UNTIL HE KNOWS THE BURN OF HAVING HIS HOME DISTROYED INFRONT OF HIS VERY EYES

THe only destruction going on right now is that of LEBANON Hezboullah is powerless against ISREAL thats the fact

these rockets are not harming anybody 1 or 2 people max dead in Isreal and they cry and cry while secretly they are happy because this gives them a reason to go ahead and whipe out all of lebanon with bombs that have raciall slurs written all over them bby their terrorist children
Authubillahi minashaitani rageem
shayateen thats what Isreal is SHAITAAN!!!!!!

Originally Posted by searchingsoul

Some of my people have been "vicimized and raped inside out", but over time my family moved on and allowed time to heal.

You dont speak for humanity in general.

Originally Posted by Zionazi_Dissent

A war is a confrontation between two or more armed forces.

Deaths of innocent civilains are inexcusable. That is exactly what the spokesman for Israel said about Qana.

Its pretty obvious that you're biased and see one group of people more valuable than another.

COULDNT AGREE MORE

COULDNT AGREE MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!