Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis

Just one question for now? Do people go to mosque armed with eggs should they need to pelt someone?

i was thinking the same! but there are shops around that area *thinks*

apparently, the sisters came all the way from london to make their stance..
Allahu'A'lam, if this is true then the sisters were asking for trouble...

there are literally Masjids at every street corner in Blackburn, there are Islamic centres too, there is a particular islamic bookshop which has womens learning/teaching facilities... where if the sisters had intentions to pray their Salaah... could have prayed.

why cause all the commotion at that particular Masjid... which does not concern them..?

I have not deemed the behavior of these men acceptable at all.

however, my point is...it is not an obligation upon these sisters to educate the men of Blackburn, they should have handed out these flyers to the sisters/women of Blackburn instead, there are Masha'Allah so many practising sisters in Blackburn who are influencial and eduated, many Farigh Alimah's, there are four islamic schools, one huge madressa (Madinatul uloom Muhammad Zakariyah)

Allah(swt) is going to question us for our OWN actions -FIRST.

sisters we should enjoin good and forbid evil, we sisters should help our sisters in Islam first, the brothers were very much in the wrong..let the brothers deal with them.

the two sisters took the wrong approach, and then aggravated the situation publicising it.

outcome =

sisters were attacked

the whole world now knows about it

people are angered by it

Muslims of Blackburn are now tarred with the same brush

major embarrassment to the ummah

now non muslims will have even more misconceptions about Islam.

May Allah give us all hidaayah, May ALLAH(swt) grant us all the ability to speak the truth and make Aa’mal on the truth. May He Ta'ala accept the efforts of Muslims in whatever way they are working to better the condition of the Ummah and may He Ta'ala put Barakah in our works and make our intentions and our actions straight and according to the requirements of Islam.

Ameen.

Originally Posted by amani

i was thinking the same! but there are shops around that area *thinks*

lol tis a bit eggstreme if they popped into Sainsbury's half way!

They must have obviously known that those sisters were muslim, and they go n call them non muslims, we all know what happens wen u call some one a kafir wen theyre not dnt we, it comes back on their head.

May Allah grant them hidayat ameen. Im appauled, big up to thsoe sisters fighting for their rights.

i agree !!! why on gods earth come 100 miles away from out of town (if its tru) jst to make a point..

there are 100's of other mosques that have sisters sections....why not go ther...?

WHAT WAS THE SISTER'S MOTIVE. to gain what..? look at the situation its self.

if they were doing somthing PIOUS n holy ,, would allah have disgrace them like that..?

by the way id just like to add, this is the same masjid that invited condaleeza rice to do a presentation.

Originally Posted by Daffodil

big up to thsoe sisters fighting for their rights.

Allahu akbar,

Look at the fitna it created n yr bign them up.

oh god MPAC... *rolls eyes*

those brothers had no right to abuse there sisters and to call kaffir, thats just plain silly, not to mention haraam.... but then again the sisters where a bit stupid, if the sisters want to pray in the mosques they should proove to the brothers they are capable, maybe by starting a little masjid in one of the sisters houses.

Originally Posted by Kamilah

sisters we should enjoin good and forbid evil, we sisters should help our sisters in Islam first, the brothers were very much in the wrong..let the brothers deal with them.

salam,

as well as a lot of what you have said in this thread, I would like to point out just how unIslamic the above statement is.

From the Qur'an, we find:

"The believers, men and women, are Auliya (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another; they enjoin good, and forbid evil; they perform As-Salat (prayer) and give the Zakat (charity), and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. " - (9:71)

do you see the stark contrast between your statement and what this verse says?
 

Perhaps the sisters had this saying of our prophet (saws) in mind:

Abu Sa"id al-Khudri, may Allah be pleased with him, reported that the Messenger of Allah (saws) had said:
"Whoever amongst you sees anything objectionable, let him change it with his hand, if he is not able, then with his tongue, and if he is not even able to do so, then with his heart, and the latter is the weakest form of faith." (Muslim)


I certainly applaud this method of pointing out injustices, and objectionable actions, as opposed to the method that has been done here in the US, by simply staging a publicity media stunt and inviting world press.

Originally Posted by Isma'el

i agree !!! why on gods earth come 100 miles away from out of town (if its tru) jst to make a point..

there are 100's of other mosques that have sisters sections....why not go ther...?


if they were doing somthing PIOUS n holy ,, would allah have disgrace them like that..?..?

actually many many many of the masjids in uk do NOT allow women in.

and as for your last sentence, well remember how much the sahabah had to suffer.. was their cause not right? they went through 10000000 more suffering.......

Originally Posted by ameen

salam,

as well as a lot of what you have said in this thread, I would like to point out just how unIslamic the above statement is.

From the Qur'an, we find:

"The believers, men and women, are Auliya (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another; they enjoin good, and forbid evil; they perform As-Salat (prayer) and give the Zakat (charity), and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. " - (9:71)

do you see the stark contrast between your statement and what this verse says?
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whats your point sis?

rather than pointing out the "UN"islamicness of my posts and personally attacking me, look at the issue at hand-the opening post to the thread

would you care to Islamically the justify the actions of two young women travelling to the other side of the country to hand out leaflets outside a masjid (which does even not concern them, A Masjid that they will NOT even regularly be attending!!!) on the day of jum'uah? in the pathway of men?

what good came of it?

did they travel from the other side of country?

Originally Posted by Kamilah

whats your point sis?

would you care to Islamically the justify the actions of two young women travelling to the other side of the country to hand out leaflets outside a masjid (which does even not concern them, A Masjid that they will NOT even regularly be attending!!!) on the day of jum'uah? in the pathway of men?

salam,

what do you mean when you say 'masjid which does not concern them' ?

Of-course it concerns them . Are you suggesting that they become selfish and only care about what affects themselves and not others who are deprived from entering other mosques?

If they have done this out of consideration for others, is that not a good thing?

I'm not a sister bytheway.

wsalam

Originally Posted by ameen

salam,

what do you mean when you say 'masjid which does not concern them' ?

Of-course it concerns them . Are you suggesting that they become selfish and only care about what affects themselves and not others who are deprived from entering other mosques?

If they have done this out of consideration for others, is that not a good thing?

I'm not a sister bytheway.

wsalam

i think you are missing the point,

BLACKBURN HAS MANY FACILITIES FOR SISTERS!

facilities for Muslimah's in Blackburn are abundant..Alhamdulillah!

I dont see the women of Blackburn complaining?

I would suggest you go and read the MPAC website and read up on their articles (that article in particular and the comments) and their forum.

mpac are a political lobbying group, they spend the majority of their time takfeering mainly masjid imams..its a conicidence how they went to that particular masjid if their so called intentions were to pray
they are playing on the whole "women praying in mosques" issue...