World Affairs Thread, Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally in General Forums; Originally Posted by MTAFFI
Tell me how the Israelis lost. How many dead? Did the economy suffer? It is easy ...
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Re: Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally

Originally Posted by
MTAFFI
Tell me how the Israelis lost. How many dead? Did the economy suffer? It is easy for Hezbollah to claim victory but really it is the Lebanese who lost this war. Much of their land has been destroyed, and why? Not because Israel demanded their soilders back but because Hezbollah would not give them back. And instead of the government (the elected officials for the lebanese people) saying yes lets go to war over this, Hezbollah an armed group in Lebanon, said yes let go to war over this on behalf of the Lebanese people. Israel may not have accomplished what they set out to do but they certainly did not lose. Take a look at the people dead on each side, take a look at the damage on each side and then tell me who the real loser is.
starfortress
hi
How about this,
By 25 August 2006 63% of Israelis polled wanted Olmert to resign due to his handling of the war.The Economist concluded that by surviving this unsymmetrical military conflict with Israel, Hezbollah effectively emerged with a military and political victory from this conflict. Also, Israel's stated goals entering the conflict were to retrieve its two captured soldiers and destroy the military capability of Hezbollah - neither goal was accomplished.
And Israel also failing to disarm Hezbollah via U.N resolutions.So there are no clearcut victory for Israel,also "lost this battle horribly" according to you for Hezbollah are not accurate.
Where did you get this quote anyways? I am sure it the opinion of some all knowing and always correct news agency.
Hi
So you measure the winning by a deathpoll and damage,thats mean you have to learn more about life.War is not simple as football game.If you read carefully in my quote i never said Hezbollah has totally lost the war,or Israel has win the war.Ok to me it simple,firstly why Israel have to get into war with Hezbollah?What is their objective or mission? Are they accomplished the mission? Obviously Israel has failed to archieve their objective,while Hezbollah still exist.
Where did you get this quote anyways? I am sure it the opinion of some all knowing and always correct news agency
Keep on surfing and reading from all source.
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Re: Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally

Originally Posted by
Kidman
How did Hezbollah lose when they barely lost any soldiers.
We have absolutely no idea how many "soldiers" Hezbollah lost. The Israelis published detailed casualty figures, Hezbollah published nothing - and there would absolutely no way of verifying figures even if they had.
All of which is totally irrelevant, of course - war it isn't some sort of sport where the side killing most wins. Plenty of wars have been won by the side with the highest casualties, frequently precisely because they were prepared to pay that price to win.
If it was a "victory", it was no more than a Pyrrhic one... the price was not worth paying. I wonder how many ordinary Lebanese who had relatives killed, maimed or made homeless attended the "victory rally"?
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Re: Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally

Originally Posted by
Trumble
We have absolutely no idea how many "soldiers" Hezbollah lost. The Israelis published detailed casualty figures, Hezbollah published nothing - and there would absolutely no way of verifying figures even if they had.
All of which is totally irrelevant, of course - war it isn't some sort of sport where the side killing most wins. Plenty of wars have been won by the side with the highest casualties, frequently precisely because they were prepared to pay that price to win.
If it was a "victory", it was no more than a Pyrrhic one... the price was not worth paying. I wonder how many ordinary Lebanese who had relatives killed, maimed or made homeless attended the "victory rally"?
I wonder how many ordinary Lebanese who had relatives killed, maimed or made homeless attended the "victory rally"?
If there do it,i name it joy over suffering
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Re: Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally

Originally Posted by
Trumble
We have absolutely no idea how many "soldiers" Hezbollah lost. The Israelis published detailed casualty figures, Hezbollah published nothing - and there would absolutely no way of verifying figures even if they had.
All of which is totally irrelevant, of course - war it isn't some sort of sport where the side killing most wins. Plenty of wars have been won by the side with the highest casualties, frequently precisely because they were prepared to pay that price to win.
If it was a "victory", it was no more than a Pyrrhic one... the price was not worth paying. I wonder how many ordinary Lebanese who had relatives killed, maimed or made homeless attended the "victory rally"?
well said.
the only victor in war are the weapons dealers.

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Re: Thousands of supporters flow to the Victory Rally
People went nuts when Hezbollah took two soldiers, which in war, they dont count as civilians. Meanwhile Israel had about more than a thousand civilians before all this happened in Lebanon. This was like 24 years ago.

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