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One shouldn't be praying to anyone but Allah in His moqsue.
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He could be praying to Jesus, since Catholics believe inthe Trinity, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit being three parts of the same god.
One shouldn't be praying to anyone but Allah in His moqsue.
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No Islamic religious authorities object to the popes praying in Umayyad mosque and Blue Mosque. Thus, it's ok then.
Jews are also strict followers of monotheistic belief, and they never questioned of the popes praying in their synagogues in Germany and Italy.
Pope Benedict believe that there is a need for an alliance of Judeo-Christo-Islam to defend the world from unbelievers. And I've heard that he retracted his decision not to allow Turkey into EU.
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Akhi, did you read the Question I asked?Originally Posted by imaad_udeen
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BENEDICT'S POST-SECULAR VISION IN HIS TURKEY VISIT
By PHILLIP BLOND and ADRIAN PABST
Two months ago, Pope Benedict XVI sparked a furore in the Islamic world when, during a lecture at Regensburg, he quoted a Byzantine emperor who described some of Prophet Muhammad's teachings as "evil and inhuman".
After worldwide condemnation and violent protests, Benedict expressed regret for the pain his comments had caused but stopped short of a full apology.
During his visit to Turkey this week, Benedict is expected to avoid controversy and seek a diplomatic rapprochement with Islam. Indeed, his talk of "dialogue", brotherhood and understanding between religions," as well as the reversal of his objections to Turkey's EU membership has widely been interpreted as a gesture of goodwill towards the Muslim faithful.
As such, his declarations appear to be a concession to his liberal and religious critics alike.
But the papal visit is not primarily an attempt to pacify relations between Christianity and Islam. Instead, Benedict is there to engage with Islam and Eastern Orthodoxy in the hope of persuading both to join his project to overcoming secularism.
The Pope, far from being secterian, wants to inaugurate a new religious renaissance in Europe that opposes bith secular and religious fundementalism. This apostolic journey is of a piece with the logic of the Regensburg address.
Benedict opposes secularism because it's absolute and arbitrary. In the name of being neutral with regard to values, secular ideology eliminates all rival worldviews from the public sphere... - IHT
Source: The Star, 01.12.2006, page W40.
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If the Pope is praying to Jesus Christ he is praying to God. I know that is difficult for some Muslims to understand(seemingly), but one could think of it as a triangle, three sides of the same figure. In any event, from what I understand the Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) allowed Christians to pray at his Masjid after a meeting he had with a group of Christian leaders. So if the Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) didn't find a problem with allowing Christians to pray at a Mosque why should you second guess that decision now?
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Finally someone brought this up, jee it really can be difficult getting people to think.
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Prophet Muhammad did allow Christians to pray in mosque? Care to further explain? Cos... I dont know about it.
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The believe in the trinity, a God that's 3 in 1. Is that Allah? Catholics pray to Jesus, they even pray to Mary. So who knows who is was praying to, maybe Jesus, maybe Mary, maybe the holy ghost- but definitely not Allah! You to declare that there is no God but Allah before you can even pray- shahada, then prayer.
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Err where's your evidence? Can you give me a hadith reference if you don't mind? I would really appreciate it.
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In the year 10 A.H. (631 CE), Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) received a delegation of sixty Christians from Najran in Medinah. The territory of Najran was located south of Bani Khath’am near Yemen, about 450 miles south of Medinah. They were received in the Prophet’s mosque, and the Prophet allowed them to pray in the mosque, which they did facing East. This group of Christians followed Byzantine rite.
They discussed with the Prophet the points of doctrine including the nature of God, and he replied them by reciting Surah Ikhlas (112) of the Qur’an. It begins with the word ‘Qul’ meaning ‘Say’. The translation of the meaning of the Surah is: 'Say: He is Allah, the One! Allah, the eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him'. Further discussion on the nature of Prophet Jesus (pbuh) led to some disagreements, on which he recited them the three Ayats of the Qur’an from Surah Ale-‘Imran (3:59-61). After three days, the Christian delegation decided to conclude its mission
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/treaty631.htm
http://*************/kaaba14/2.htm#Th...%20of%20Najran.
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Question:
What is the ruling on non-Muslims entering the mosque?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
It is forbidden for Muslims to allow any kaafir to enter al-Masjid al-Haraam [in Makkah] and the sacred areas [al-Haram] around it, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikûn (polytheists) are Najasun (impure). So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year” [al-Tawbah 9:28].
With regard to other mosques, some fuqaha’ said that it is permissible because there is nothing to indicate that it is not allowed; others said that it is not permissible, by analogy with al-Masjid al-Haraam.
The correct view is that it is permissible if it serves the interests of sharee’ah or meet a valid need, such as a person hearing something that may invite him to enter Islam, or because he needs to drink water in the mosque, or the like. This is because the Prophet(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) tied up (his prisoner) Thamaamah ibn Athaal al-Hanafi in the mosque before he became Muslim, and the delegations of Thaqeef and the Christians of Najraan stayed in the mosque before they became Muslim. There were many benefits offered by doing this: they could hear the speeches and sermons of the Prophet
If some kuffaar ask to enter the mosque so that they can see how Muslims pray, so long as they have nothing with them that could make the mosque dirty, and there are no women among them who are dressed in a provocative fashion, or any other reason not to let them in, then there is nothing wrong with allowing them to enter and sit behind the Muslims so they can see how they pray. If we fear that there is someone who may rebuke them (for not praying etc.) without realizing that they are not Muslim, we should point this out to them.
And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref...ffaar%20masjid
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I dont like the idea of someone who insulted the Prophet (pbuh) being allowed to enter a Mosque.
But Allah knows all.
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Actually, a Byzantine Emperor insulted the Prophet, Pope Benedict just quoted him for reasons of his own. An extemely dumb thing to do, but Benedict is a scholar and not as charismatic as John Paul. What is most unfortunate about his choice of words is that it completely overshadowed the point of his speech, which was the role of reason in religion, and that violence has no place within it.
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That pope should not be allowed to pray in the musjied. Wasn't it Christians who genocided the muslims. If the pope prayed in Israel where jews worship; I would see all jews killing and spreading hatred about Christianity.
I hated the fact muslims allowed a mushirk to pray in the musjid; this is the reasons why Muslims are getting killed, being insulted, and treated like trash around the world. I don't blame Bush or any of the politicians for claiming muslims to be terrorist because it is their (muslims) fault for this. If they didn't fight and "hated" each other this wouldn't happen.
Anyway, I didn't mean to insult or say anything to hurt someone. It is my opinion.
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If one is truly concerned with creating improved relations and fostering friendship between faiths it would seem prudent and logical to be seen honoring the other faith's places of worship. Would it be more insulting for the Pope to state he would not pray in a mosque because it would be sinful to do so, or more insulting that he views a mosque as a place Christians should feel comfortable in worshipping their own faith? Not that Christians are suddenly going to start trying to worship at mosques, but that Christians may grow to feel more comfortable with the Islamic faith. The mentality I've read about this issue by many on this thread is a repitition of what has divided us over the past 1,000 years.
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