Greetings and peace to you all

Some forty years ago I went to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is said to be the tomb of Christ. The thing that lives in my memory is groups of pilgrims of many faiths praying together at alters within the church.

I remember waiting respectfully with my Catholic group whilst a group of Orthodox Christians were saying their prayers in front of one of the alters. When they finished and moved on we took their place and prayed.

We must continue to pray for peace in our own hearts, that we are able to be more understanding of people of other faiths. There is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen, somehow we need a greater understanding of oneness despite all our differences.

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith friendship

Eric

i am looking forward to one day going here and just gonna start praying. this is a house of Allah and if the security guards want to stop me they will have to bodily carry me away because that is the only way i am stopping my salaah.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

on the plus side...

there are quite a huge number of the young people in spain coming to islam, it was after all the religion of many of their ancestors and a deen (way of life) that makes sense unlike many aspects of christian worship and faith.

there are also 800,000 muslims out of 45 million in spain, we breed faster and more people are reverting so it is only a matter of time. do the maths yourself and soon corduba and all of al-andalus will be ours again soon.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

There is a place I would love to pray but since it is under full Muslim control courtesy of the Israeli goverment, I was unable to when I tried to visit.

Actually, a non-Muslim who visits there can be kicked out if they utter a word of prayer by the Muslim authorities in charge of the site. So I think we can all relate to one another after all.

Greetings and peace be with you Jayda;

I have to say that I am also upset after reading your post, and I am a Catholic.

I lived in Winchester for some years, and there are signs around the city reminding us of the times Catholics and Protestants were killing each other in major battles. Over the last few centuries people of peace from both factions have gradually broken down many of the barriers that existed between them. Today Christians of many denominations in Winchester are able to pray together and work together.

Protestants will welcome Catholics into their church to share communion, but Catholics seem reluctant to welcome Protestants to the Lords table.

The only thing lacking between them is brotherly love.

Now I have to ask if Christians can progress from killing each other to praying together; why can’t Muslims and Christians pray together. There is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen; we are all created by the same God regardless of what we choose to believe.

Are the barriers in our own heart? Or does God want us to be segregated?

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith tolerance and friendship

Eric

This maybe the same thing I'm talking about or something similar but they asked for something like this once before in Spain and Spanish gave them a no. It might have been to do with building a mosque where one once stood.

Spain is a very religious catholic country, they're not like the UK or the US where they will do everything to please muslims.

idol worshipping mosques is bad.real bad.that's weakness.

Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

i am looking forward to one day going here and just gonna start praying. this is a house of Allah and if the security guards want to stop me they will have to bodily carry me away because that is the only way i am stopping my salaah.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

Don't do that. We have been specifically commanded not to "rock the boat" as it where, especially in a country where we are an extreme minority.

Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

on the plus side...

there are quite a huge number of the young people in spain coming to islam,

I've heard this quite frequently and hope it is true, in sha Allah. You wouldn't happen to have statistics, would you?

it was after all the religion of many of their ancestors and a deen (way of life) that makes sense unlike many aspects of christian worship and faith.

No offense to the christians on board having been a roman catholic and studied christian dogma with canon doctors, I can honestly say christian theology holds about as much water as a sieve. What irks me even more is when Pope Benedict starts talking about christianity as a "faith of reason and logic" when at its heart it is a mystery religion (try explaining the trinity completely, for example)

there are also 800,000 muslims out of 45 million in spain, we breed faster and more people are reverting so it is only a matter of time. do the maths yourself and soon corduba and all of al-andalus will be ours again soon.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

The breeding faster statistic usually doesn't apply to Muslims in western countries, or if it does, it stops after the second generation. Large families are a general byproduct of lowered educational opportunities and generally shorter lifespans in the "old countries". When immigrants arrive the standard of living for them increases dramatically, as well as opportunities for higher education and the jobs that follow, and everyone knows nothing kills the desire to breed like work.

Originally Posted by Woodrow

I just found a link with many pictures. Quite interesting. I was surprised to see it has very few statues.


http://www.infocordoba.com/spain/and...ue_2/index.htm

Greetings, Woodrow

I was just thinking about finding some picture of Cordoba's Cathdral, when I came upon your post and the link. Thank you for posting it.

Such a beautiful place!

Peace

Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

there are also 800,000 muslims out of 45 million in spain, we breed faster and more people are reverting so it is only a matter of time. do the maths yourself and soon corduba and all of al-andalus will be ours again soon.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

Originally Posted by Eric H

Now I have to ask if Christians can progress from killing each other to praying together; why can’t Muslims and Christians pray together. There is one God the creator of all that is seen and unseen; we are all created by the same God regardless of what we choose to believe.

Are the barriers in our own heart? Or does God want us to be segregated?

In the spirit of seeking a greater interfaith tolerance and friendship

Eric

Greetings, Eric and Abu Abdullah

I started a thread here, which you might like to read and contribute your views in ... everybody else is invited too, of course!
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...-together.html (Worshipping together?)

peace

Originally Posted by M for Maliki

I've heard this quite frequently and hope it is true, in sha Allah. You wouldn't happen to have statistics, would you?



No offense to the christians on board having been a roman catholic and studied christian dogma with canon doctors, I can honestly say christian theology holds about as much water as a sieve. What irks me even more is when Pope Benedict starts talking about christianity as a "faith of reason and logic" when at its heart it is a mystery religion (try explaining the trinity completely, for example)





The breeding faster statistic usually doesn't apply to Muslims in western countries, or if it does, it stops after the second generation. Large families are a general byproduct of lowered educational opportunities and generally shorter lifespans in the "old countries". When immigrants arrive the standard of living for them increases dramatically, as well as opportunities for higher education and the jobs that follow, and everyone knows nothing kills the desire to breed like work.

i would disagree,

most of my friends are 2nd or 3rd generation muslim and still breeding like rabbits lol.

the thing is having lots of kids is encouraged in our religion so if people keep their deen they will be likely to keep having the huge numbers of kids as it was encouraged by rasoolullah saws.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

Originally Posted by M for Maliki

Don't do that. We have been specifically commanded not to "rock the boat" as it where, especially in a country where we are an extreme minority.

commanded by who?

i have never heard such a command from any islamic figure not to pray here and my lord tells me to pray so if go to visit this place i will pray there and **** their ideas on not praying here.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

Originally Posted by IzakHalevas

There is a place I would love to pray but since it is under full Muslim control courtesy of the Israeli goverment, I was unable to when I tried to visit.

Actually, a non-Muslim who visits there can be kicked out if they utter a word of prayer by the Muslim authorities in charge of the site. So I think we can all relate to one another after all.

It is sad that no one here understands how relevant this post is.

Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk

It is sad that no one here understands how relevant this post is.

The world belongs to God, therefore i should be able to pray in the white house right? How come i'm not allowed there?

Similarly, Allaah has made some places for believers as a sanctuary so they aren't under a threat by any disbelievers [of some who may even have a bad intention to harm the believers] so the believers can worship God without being under the threat of being harmed. And Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.