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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) allowed the Christians of Najraan to pray in his mosque, facing towards their “qiblah” (direction of prayer). End quote from Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah, 2/819-823. Extracted from IslamQA Peace. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe | |
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
He may have, i don't know of much ahadith so i can't say. Maybe you could do a search on that. Anyway, at the bottom of the article it also mentions: Quote:
So the muslims may have allowed the pope to pray in the istanbul masjid. And anyway, even if they don't let him - if the prophet (peace be upon him) allowed it, then why should we compare todays muslims to the prophet himself? We follow his example. MTAFFI. We don't cry to you, and we don't complain to the disbelievers. We complain to Allaah, the Lord of the worlds. Allaah has power over all things, and because we've spent too much time straying away from the religion of Allaah, He has placed us in this position of humiliation so that we may turn back to Him. What better time is there to turn back to Allaah except at times of hardship? Have you actually checked up on the rulings regarding the issues such as the violent protests? Have you found any trustworthy scholar saying that we should take back the masjid back by force? We will gain them back by the will of Allaah, and if you just going to follow what the media tells you, then you have the right to do that, but if you've ever seen an event in real life, then you'll know that the media isn't always telling the truth. In the end, we will return back to Allaah and be judged on all that we did. Peace. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe | ||
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Maybe because their not labelled christians? Maybe their just labelled under another title? Whereas when muslims do something, its; MUSLIM TERRORIST? or ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS? Quote:
I asked if any trustworthy scholars agreed to the violence? Quote:
They have the right to ask. Quote:
Yeah, but the media is owned by a certain authority who may allow some things to be shown, highlighted more than others etc. I believe that, and i see alot of propaganda against our faith. Peace. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe | ||||
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| LI's #1 Sudais Fan Status: Offline Posts: 521 Reputation: 1458 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Locating... Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | MTAFFI we don't wake up one morning and say "hey lets cause problems, lets chant the destruction of a country" Muslims are being attacked in every way possible, verbally, mentally, and physically. Its of Human nature in which we retaliate to these attacks. When we do attack you say we are terrorist. Now what about Israel, Britain, and USA. "Oh no there strong countries so they can't be terrorists but these less stronger countries in the Muslim world are terrorists because they seem to be attacking us". How many regular Muslims walk down the streets and are chanted at "death to Islam". Imagine some people drew Jesus naked with these women and it was made a whole joke (not is the Muslim world because we believe in him and you guys believe his god). I'm pretty sure you would be pissed. But wait This insult comes at a time in which you are being attacked everyday. People especially like you don't see the whole picture, you take a glimpse and then come to your conclusion, when you say were whining, find why are they. Muslims have given other religions much tolerance until they came barging in on our territory. Now doesn't seem logical were fighting you because your on our land . Now doesn't seem reasonable that a country leaves their homeland and travels half-way across the world to take a countries oil. Then they blame the reason on some other thing. Does it seem okay to for one country to give many countries independence except one which they keep tormenting. Also a "new" and "illegal" country by let alone religion by there people established there state on while they take water and attack the people whom they took it from with the help of larger countries. I don't know where your thinking but When we can't fight back with strong might and the UN is reluctant to do anything. We didnt they sanction these countries yet they sanction another country who want to protect itself. Does seem proper and normal, I say Muslims are facing a humanitarian crisis. People want them out of existence , out of their land, out of there culture, and religion. Yet you say we always want to fight. Now does that comment seem fair |
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| Catholic Status: Offline Posts: 1,214 Reputation: 2564 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kiawah Island, SC Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
the muslims in Turkey did not convert their mosque into a museum for the sake of Christians... they did it because it represented to them an old theocratic regime they wanted to escape... the Turks are very negative toward Christians. but this issue with the Cathedral of Cordoba is not about peoples feelings... we cannot deconsecrate a Cathedral for an impious purpose... which is what Muslims are requesting. it is a Cathedral... not a mosque, i am very frightened about the aggressive talk of a "return" of an "al andalus" or "the mosque" of Cordoba... spanish people remember muslim rule with very mixed feelings... muslims were very oppressive rulers but very sophistocated and brought good things to the spaniards... and i certainly would not exist without them, but the return of an "al andalus" just like the first time is not a welcome thing to spaniards and so it means invasion, and that scares me very much... it is time muslims accept the world they live in... there is no mosque of cordoba, there is no al andalus... please do not push this any further. Quote:
please do not misinterpret the Holy Fathers actions in the mosque... he was not praying, if that were so you would have seen him cross himself... it was a moment of meditation. Dios te bendiga ...are these threads necessary? they are redundant and lead to a lot of islamic pride & pomp which is kind of scaring me... | ||
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Hi jayda.
__________________It's a double sided argument, you as a christian may say that the muslim leaders were oppressive, yet it was the christians who drove out the muslims from al andalus even though it was their land. However, it was due to our own faults that Allaah placed it in the hands of someone else. One of the reasons why they aren't allowing the muslims to pray in this masjid is due to the fact that it is a matter of pride for the christians, and i don't blame them for that. It depends on which side of the story you see, obviously the article you linked me to was by a spanish christian, so it would be biased. So i think this arguing is pointless. Peace. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe |
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | The same way the christians have it under their rule today. Muslim Spain and European Culture Peace. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe |
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