Originally Posted by Keltoi

How many Chechen fighters actually participated in Grozny? Is 700 the actual approximate number? Doesn't seem likely if they fought the Russian military to a standstill.

I think the Chechan numbers are in the thousands, Numbers do not matter, it is through the Will of Allah swt that victory arrives.

Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19

The similiar words was said to the Mujahideen against the byzantine and Persian Empires before the Persian Kneeled and parts of the Byzantine.

Same was said about the Mujahideen of Afghanistan against the Russian invasion, 140,000 Russians could not take Afghanistan and people expect 40,000 NATO to do it? And don't bring up the excuse of weapons backing.

Same Lol was said about Iraq, that the United States would walk in with open hands, but now it seems they are trying a way to walk out.

Have you still no sense?

Yep that's true. The one with more will and courage and who's actually fighting for a reason will always be unbeatable.

Lost all his honor at Beslan.

Lool

And how many victories have you won O brave warrior?

What have you done for a nation that is being wiped out?

Have you ever liberated a persecuted nation and ended a genocidal war?

Im guessing the answer is...no

Slandering Muslims on an internet forum seems to be your area of expertise.

As an American, I have great sympathy for those who are fighting for freedom and independence. Beslan was a horrible mistake. Not only because of the dead children, although that is bad enough, but also because of the PR victory it gave the Russians, who could now justify their war on Chechnya as a "war on terrorism". I'm sure any honest Chechen concerned with peace and independence would agree that what happened in Beslan was extremely damaging to the cause.

However, the situation in Chechnya is much more complicated and heartbreaking than just Beslan. While Basayev's memory will always be marred by what occurred at Beslan, one shouldn't overlook what else has happened and is happening in Chechnya. The Chechens have an honorable goal, and the Russians are not the good guys. Not that I believe in "good guys" and "bad guys"..but hopefully my meaning is clear.

As an American, I have great sympathy for those who are fighting for freedom and independence. Beslan was a horrible mistake. Not only because of the dead children, although that is bad enough, but also because of the PR victory it gave the Russians, who could now justify their war on Chechnya as a "war on terrorism". I'm sure any honest Chechen concerned with peace and independence would agree that what happened in Beslan was extremely damaging to the cause.

However, the situation in Chechnya is much more complicated and heartbreaking than just Beslan. While Basayev's memory will always be marred by what occurred at Beslan, one shouldn't overlook what else has happened and is happening in Chechnya. The Chechens have an honorable goal, and the Russians are not the good guys. Not that I believe in "good guys" and "bad guys"..but hopefully my meaning is clear.

Id agree with most of that - Beslan was a mistake.

I dont think PR matters much - a PR victory isnt gonna stop the killing of the Chechen people.

The supposed good-will of the world didnt stop the death of 40,000 Chechen children before Beslan so im not surprised they gave up on PR.