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Default Let us find a voice for Muslims - 01-07-2009

Muslims have had no voice since the fall of the Othoman empire. During the time of the Othoman empire, the Sultan served as a representative voice for Muslims in the world, there was an entity called the Islamic state. Traditionally, the Sultan held the position of Caliph for Muslims. But, What about now?

The Muslims have no one to speak for them, no unifying state or entity. This is a call on all sincere Muslims around the world to join in the effort to find a way to make Muslims once again a world power.

The state of the world today is such that there is a lot of suffering and injustice. Muslims can do a lot to help ease this suffering. With the proliferation of communication media such as the internet, satellite tv and mobile phones, a lot can be done, with the help of Almighty God, to make Muslims come as one.
   
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Default Re: A Call for Coexistence .. By Amr khaled - 03-02-2009

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In the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the Ever-Merciful. Peace and blessings of Allah be upon Prophet Muhammad (SAWS).

If we look around us, we’ll identify many problems; problems between our countries, problems between us as Muslims. All these problems have brought us here today with an initiative for coexistence.

For example, in Iraq, thousands are being killed and I am not talking about occupation but I mean because of sectarian differences. The same is happening in Palestine. I know that there could be external powers involved in Iraq and Palestine, but at the end of the day, if we learn to live with each other in peace, no one will be able to influence us that way. Even in Lebanon that used to be a token of love between the different sects! Their differences were the source of their welfare! But now they have started to clash. In Darfur (in Sudan), I was under the impression that all these killings were between Muslims and non-Muslims, until I woke up to the realization that they are all Muslims! I realized that all over the Arab world, we have a big problem in agreeing with each other! You might think that this program is a political one! But in fact, it is not.

Look at our homes! Parents and children are living in separate islands. Divorce rates are escalating drastically. Look at the youth! They can’t find anyone to talk to. Consequently they have isolated themselves, resorted to drugs and from there they are headed to extremism, delinquency and corruption.

In our schools and universities, there is no dialogue between the teacher and the student. The courts are so full of cases arising from nothing but disputes and clashes. Even in the mosques, we had the hearts to start fights and clashes! The concept of coexistence is not taught in our schools or universities. How come we never find courses on communication skills? I haven’t heard of a Friday sermon that tackled this topic before. I haven’t heard of bedtime stories or board games having this issue as their main theme.

The concept of teamwork is utterly missing from our industries, companies, universities, and scientific research. In Europe the companies are merging for added power while we are being scattered around. But when it comes to us, we can’t work with each other.

Even the Muslims living in the West have isolated themselves; refusing to coexist with the new society that surrounds them. We need to offer them a way in which they can smoothly integrate with the societies they are living in, without dissolving or losing their identity.

Let’s imagine that this is the circle of my thinking and this is the one of your thinking. If we keep away from each other, the two circles will always be distant. But if I want to be successful I always have to work on the common overlapping area. Let us work on enlarging it. A scholar once said, “Now I can see clearly because I have mounted everybody’s shoulders the day I heard everybody’s opinion.”


What is coexistence?

There are two objectives for this program. The first one is to instill the idea of coexistence. The second objective is to provide you with the needed skills to achieve coexistence. Whenever I use the term “the other” people instantly jump to one conclusion that I’m only talking about the West. No!! Psychologists tell us that “the other” is a term used by people from their early childhood, when they started coexisting with all the external factors surrounding us.

the first lesson Allah taught to all humanity was coexistence; if you (mankind) will descend to the earth, then you must learn how to live with each other. Allah says what can be translated as, “And recite to them the tiding of the two sons of Adam with the truth as they offered a sacrifice, (Literally: sacrificed an all-sanctified sacrifice) (and) it was (graciously) accepted of one of them and not (graciously) accepted of the other. One (of them) said, “Indeed, I will definitely kill you.” (The other) said, “Surely Allah (graciously) accepts only of the pious” (TMQ, 5:27). “The other” was used here though we’re talking about two brothers; each had his own way of thinking.

The one who is able to coexist is always a person who is self-confident, strong, open-minded and civilized. That’s why Islam is so open to the whole world, because it’s a profound religion and a complete way of life. It has all the factors that enable you to be a good Muslim, yet at the same time so open to the other.

Coexistence does not mean dissolution, or loss of one’s identity, faith or character. Coexistence as a concept exists between two parties: both of them must interact mutually. Let me say this to the Western countries; you can’t enforce your culture on me and then expect me to coexist. You can’t enforce our youth to be a carbon copy of your own culture, and then ask us to coexist. You can’t occupy our country, and then ask us to coexist. We are calling for coexistence between two parties who respect each other’s wishes. This program will tell all the stories of coexistence throughout our history because I want all the youths to be proud of their identity. So coexist but never forget your roots. You have a global mission. You will be open to the whole world, yet proud of your own Muslim identity.

The Prophet (SAWS) taught us that the Muslim who interacts (i.e. coexists) with people and is patient in enduring their harm is better than the one who doesn’t interact and hence is not harmed by them. So don’t think that you are better because no one is harming you.

Coexistence is when we live with each other and accept each other for what we are. Coexistence is when we argue with each other and respect each other even in our differences. Coexistence is when we accept each other’s presence and establish common grounds even when we disagree.



What does Islam say about coexistence?

You’ll be proud to know what Islam says about coexistence. The first thing Islam teaches us is that it is not shameful that we are so different! It is a universal law since it is in our nature to be so different. The greatest creation made by Allah is the human mind. There is no way that all human minds can be identical. How come you accept that we are so different on the outside, yet you do not want to accept us being different in the way we think? Your son has to be different from you; he can’t be a carbon copy of you! If you believe in a certain sect or follow a certain school of thought, you can’t expect everybody else to be identical to you. If you accept this, then you have covered half of the way to overcome this problem.

Islam even says that these differences between us enrich our lives. Allah says what can be translated as, “…and We have made you races and tribes that you may get mutually acquainted” (TMQ, 49:13). This sentence “that you may get mutually acquainted” has a very vast meaning in Arabic that encompasses: exchanging benefits, getting along, making use of each other’s ideas and exchanging economic interests.

Allah says what can be translated as, “And help one another to benignancy and piety” (TMQ, 5:2). This ayah (verse) is not just for Muslims but for all mankind. Let’s help one another in combating the dangers of drugs, of the bird flu epidemic. The rest of the ayah says, “and do not help one another to vice and hostility” (TMQ, 5:2). So you can’t occupy my land, and then ask me to coexist with you.

The Islamic civilization reached its prime when different nationalities and backgrounds joined Islam. Had it not been for Andalusia, which had flourished at the hands of the Muslims, Europe would have never been what it is now. The United States is what it is now because of the various ethnicities and nationalities that have blended together.

I’m challenging all of the constitutions of the Western world to state a single phrase included in them that encourages their people to go and get acquainted with others. The only constitution that has such a phrase is the Qur’an. The West should not look upon us condescendingly saying that it was them who invented coexistence, because this is not true.

Look at this great ayah, “And if your Lord had (so) decided, He would indeed have made mankind one nation; and they do not cease differing (among themselves). Excepting the ones on whom your Lord has mercy, and He created them for that (end)…” (TMQ, 11:118-119). Another ayah that stresses this meaning, “And of His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the differences of your tongues and colors. Surely in that are indeed signs for knowledgeable men” (TMQ, 30:22).

The Prophet (SAWS) depicts this concept by saying that Muslims, in their mercy and compassion, are like one whole body. If one organ is in pain the rest of the body will ache with fever and insomnia. The Prophet (SAWS) is giving you an example from your own body. A body has various organs each with a different function and different role, yet when they worked in union as a team they became like one unit.

The Qur’an is all in the form of a dialogue. It conveys the various dialogues between the prophets and their peoples. The Qur’an even conveys the dialogue of those who objected to Islam. Look at how many times you’ll find the word “they said” in the Qur’an!

Look at “Surat al-Baqara[1]”, which outlines the methodology of Islam, until it reaches the ayah[2] of “al-Kursiyy”, which presents the Islamic creed. The very following ayah starts with, “There is no compulsion in the religion” (TMQ, 2:256). So after placing the whole methodology between our hands, this ayah is stated to the effect that no one is obliged to take this method. “So whoever decides, then let him believe, and whoever decides, then let him disbelieve” (TMQ, 18:29). Everyone is left the choice to believe or not to believe.

Look at how the Qur’an talks about the common grounds in, “Say, “O population of the Book, (Or: Family of the Book, i.e., the Jews and Christians) come to a level word between us and you, that we worship none except Allah, and that we do not associate anything with Him, and that some of us do not take to themselves others (Literally: some “others”) as lords, apart from Allah”” (TMQ, 3:64). Look at how gentle is this ayah addressing non-Muslims, “And surely, either we or you (only) are indeed upon (right) guidance or in evident error” (TMQ, 34:24). So how about the dialogue between us Muslims!

Meditate this great ayah, “O you mankind, be pious to your Lord, Who created you of one self, and created from it its spouse, and from the two disseminated many men and women” (TMQ, 4:1). We all came from one source: Adam and Hawwa (Eve).

This is what unites us with each other.

Do you know what the Prophet (SAWS) did once he reached Madinah? He called for spreading peace and greetings, feeding the hungry, and observing kinship ties. The Madinah at that time was full of clashing tribes like: Aws and Khazraj. He fraternized between the Aws and Khazraj tribes. Next, he built the mosque where the whole society would gather. Then, he renamed the city of “Yathrib” to be “al-Madinah” meaning “The City” so as not to be attributed to any particular tribe. Then he issued a constitution addressing the Jews, the disbelievers, the Muslims and everyone, asking them all to live in peace. I don’t know of a constitution calling for coexistence, like the one made by the Prophet (SAWS) in Madinah.

To all those who are afraid of Islam, and to those who refuse to add religion in the syllabuses for fear of extremism, I want to suggest the exact opposite. I want you to teach them the real Islam so they know how to coexist. If you dread extremism; then teach your children proper Islam. I want to fulfill Allah’s saying, “so be pious to Allah, and act righteously among yourselves (Or: make a reconciliation after differences)…” (TMQ, 8:1).

The Prophet (SAWS) told us that thrashing out our differences and reconciling is even better than fasting, night prayer, and charity. By Allah, our intention from this program is, “Surely the believers are only brothers; so make a reconciliation between your two brothers, and be pious to Allah, that possibly you would be granted mercy” (TMQ, 49:10). The Prophet (SAWS) also told us that things that cause strife between us, act like a “shaving” device that “shaves” our religion off, not our heads.

Allay says, “You have been the most charitable nation brought out to mankind…” (TMQ, 3:110). So I’m proud of that, but at the same time I’m capable of coexisting.


The relation between coexistence and development

Let me ask you this: How can we propose to develop ourselves while we can’t even coexist? It would be a catastrophe. If I want to establish development, then why don’t I build over what I have? I want to tell you a nice story about a boat that was in the sea, in a place where the sea meets with the river. The fishermen wanted some fresh water desperately. They signaled a faraway ship sailing to the west to send them some water. The captain told them, “Are you asking us for fresh water when it is right under you!” And I’m saying the very same thing: the fresh water is right there with us; our history.

Honestly I have to tell you that right now there are some who are trying diligently to drive us all back into wars and strife; to the times of the crusades because they want to sell weapons and make fortunes. So instead of hostility we’ve come to propose Islam’s viewpoint. The first ayah that comes in the Qur’an addresses the Lord of the worlds, “Praise be to Allah, The Lord of the worlds” (TMQ, 1:2), and the last ayah in the Qur’an addresses the Lord of mankind! , “Say, “I take refuge with The Lord of mankind” (TMQ, 114:1). Hence, the Qur’an is a universal book. So be open, coexist without dissolving or losing your faith.


Overview of the coming episodes

Starting next episode we will be telling you the stories of the four Imams (Islamic scholars): ash-Shafe’yy, Abu-Hanifa, Malik and Ahmad Ibn-Hanbal. We are not going to discuss them from the point of view of Islamic jurisprudence. We will focus on coexistence intertwined in the stories of the four Imams.



One last thing, if you want to interact with us then access our website www.amrkhaled.net after each episode. Post your comments, your criticism, and your objective views,



Finally, may the Peace of Allah be upon you all.
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This is the wise path. but politics will hinder the progress, unwilling to share economic wealth (Darfur) and controlling water supplies (Palestine) are two examples why the greedy will try to stop it.
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This is a wise path. but politics will hinder the progress, unwilling to share economic wealth (Darfur) and controlling water supplies (Palestine) and a shepherd protecting his religious flock are three examples why the greedy or power-hungry will try to stop it.
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Even the Muslims living in the West have isolated themselves; refusing to coexist with the new society that surrounds them. We need to offer them a way in which they can smoothly integrate with the societies they are living in, without dissolving or losing their identity.

The one who is able to coexist is always a person who is self-confident, strong, open-minded and civilized. That’s why Islam is so open to the whole world, because it’s a profound religion and a complete way of life. It has all the factors that enable you to be a good Muslim, yet at the same time so open to the other.

Coexistence is when we live with each other and accept each other for what we are. Coexistence is when we argue with each other and respect each other even in our differences. Coexistence is when we accept each other’s presence and establish common grounds even when we disagree.

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Excellent post and I have to say, the author iterates many of the things I have said here.

Well done


wow - only just noticed this thread was started more than a year ago - reading now!!

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Muslims have had no voice since the fall of the Othoman empire. During the time of the Othoman empire, the Sultan served as a representative voice for Muslims in the world, there was an entity called the Islamic state. Traditionally, the Sultan held the position of Caliph for Muslims. But, What about now?

The Muslims have no one to speak for them, no unifying state or entity. This is a call on all sincere Muslims around the world to join in the effort to find a way to make Muslims once again a world power.
Have to agree with you on the Caliph question, with no single ‘head’ and so many individuals claiming the right to issue edicts it’s a mishmash and there’s no accountability.
   
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O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

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You are a very wise homosapienssapiens, but your avatar reminds me of an uncle of mine. He was very very nearly as wise as you.
   
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To think of any benefit outside of Islam would mean to expect wine from a mirage . . . . . . .unusual analogy!
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O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

Surah 49 Verse 13
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