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If you are asking if the Dutch are the most liberal persons of the E.U then "Yes". So it would follow Islam would have integrated easier. An assasination, follwed by the slaying of Van Goth & one of it's best "Muslim" MP having to go into hiding from Islamic militancy made it a tad more difficult!
   
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Hash, face it, the guy admitted murdering him. He said he didn't regret it. He did it, no need to deny by claiming they forced a confession since it just makes you look silly.

It was an illegal act, though I can truly understand why he did it. Still doesn't make it legal.

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Van Gough got what he derseverved. This will also send out a strong message to other ene,mies of islaam who wish to attack islaam thoigh these media channels like these blasphemous films.
Hash, have you never considered the reverse pshcology of what you say in that he sent a message not that Islam cannot be attacked but Islam does not tolerate criticism, and thus why should peole tolerate Islam!
   
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any remember Mahatma Gandhi and Gaffar Khan?How did they fight violence?By peace and tolerance which is exactly what Islam teaches.I don't like Van Gogh a bit but what that man did was wrong very wrong.
   
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any remember Mahatma Gandhi and Gaffar Khan?How did they fight violence?By peace and tolerance which is exactly what Islam teaches.I don't like Van Gogh a bit but what that man did was wrong very wrong.

:brother: I'll admit it's pretty harsh.At the same time I don't think the brother who killed Van Gogh was unjust for Van Gogh got what he rightfully deserved.True Islam does teach peace and tolerance,but we should only treat in such a manner to our fellow muslims and strict against the non-beleivers.Not to the enemies of Islam but to followers of this perfect deen..You speak of peace do you call killing children,raping women,disrespecting the words of Allah and flushing it down a toilet Peace!!! .As long as this kind of immoral behavior increases ,peace and justice will unfortunately decrease.
   
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the desecration of the Quran also angered me.
   
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:brother: I'll admit it's pretty harsh.At the same time I don't think the brother who killed Van Gogh was unjust for Van Gogh got what he rightfully deserved.True Islam does teach peace and tolerance,but we should only treat in such a manner to our fellow muslims and strict against the non-beleivers.
Whoah there sis. It sounds like you're saying 'We should only be peaceful towards Muslims, and everyone else can go to hell'. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here. You never know how many spies could be reading this very page, right now.

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Not to the enemies of Islam but to followers of this perfect deen..You speak of peace do you call killing children,raping women,disrespecting the words of Allah and flushing it down a toilet Peace!!! .As long as this kind of immoral behavior increases ,peace and justice will unfortunately decrease.
Obviously. But crucially, Van Gogh didn't kill children or rape women (well, for all I know). He did grossly disrespect the Quran and Islam, and I'm really not surprised he was killed for it. That still doesn't make such an action legal in the state in which it was commited.
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Whoah there sis. It sounds like you're saying 'We should only be peaceful towards Muslims, and everyone else can go to hell'. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here. You never know how many spies could be reading this very page, right now.

:brother: maybe that's exactly what i'm saying .Spy huh....How would I know you're not that spy why don't you answer that.
   
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How do you know I'm not a spy?

You don't.



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I agree with most of Muezzin's posts.

van Gogh's film was clearly meant to insult Muslims. Why paint verses of the Qur'an on the body of a woman which can be seen through her translucent veil???

I'm afraid we live in a world of cause and effect.

However, from a Shariah point of view, I have heard from a learned scholar that vigilante action is very much discouraged or forbidden. Every punishment has to go through the shariah courts.

I suppose one can say the same for terrorism that we see today.

   
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could easily find out by contacting the agency
   
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May Allah reward the Dutch Brother for this noble act and hasten his release. Ameen.
   
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May Allah reward the Dutch Brother for this noble act and hasten his release. Ameen.
Brother, seriously, watch what you say in these troubled times. There are spies everywhere, and it only takes one unguarded comment for an investigation to start.
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Brother, seriously, watch what you say in these troubled times. There are spies everywhere, and it only takes one unguarded comment for an investigation to start.

:brother: are you joking or are you serious?
   
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