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Clutching a copy of the Koran, he said that "the law compels me to chop off the head of anyone who insults Allah and the prophet".
The inherent dangers of a religuos beleif is that they are open to such a wide range of interpretation

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Fair do's, the guy commited murder and has now received his sentence. However, bearing in mind the material of Van Gogh's films, it's really not hard to understand why he was murdered.
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what did Van Gogh do?

Muezzin BTW, that guy is incorrect.We are supposed to tolerate not chop off anyone's head who insults Allah.Misunderstanding and misconception have occured I guess.
   
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Van Gogh made anti-Islamic films, one of which depicted a naked woman with Quranic verses painted over her skin.

I never said the guy was right, I just said I understand why he did it.
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I know.But is there any verse in the Quran which tells us to chop off someone's head if he or she insults Allah?I believe there is none.
   
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asallama alaikum brothers.I don't think the Quran says anything about cutting peoples heads off if they are disrespecting the religion.Maybe it does but couldn't find it.I don't get why Van Gogh was killed and not Ayan Hirsi.She's the one who started the whole thing.At the same time he's the dumb one for going along with it when he knew the consequences.Guess that's what he deserved.As for brother Mohammed Bouyeri hope him the best inshallah.
   
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Ayan Hirsi,who's that?
   
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As for brother Mohammed Bouyeri hope him the best inshallah.
He's gonna need it in prison. My Bouyeri, if you're reading this - 'Don't pick up the soap!'

Here's the first thing that came on the list when I Googled Ayan Hirsi
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any Muslim was killed after Van Gogh's death?
   
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Indeed, what the brother did was wrong. He took the laws into his own hands.

If a Muslim degrades or insults the Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or Allaah, will be regarded as a disbeliever who left the fold of Islaam.

Scholars differed about his punishment. Some say that he should be executed straight away whilst other say that he should be given 3-days repentance.

As for the Non-Muslim (who is a protected citizen of the Islaamic state) insults or mocks the Prophet or Allaah will be executed straight away. Some scholars also hold the opinion such as Abu Haneefa (May Allaah have mercy on him) who stated that they should be deported safely from the Islaamic State (i.e. Khilafa).

   
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Thing is, Van Gogh wasn't in a Muslim state while he made his blasphemous libel. If he was, execution would be justified. But since he wasn't, like you said, his killer took the law into his own hands and thus should be punished accordingly.

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well what happened after his death?I heard something like mosques were targeted after his death.
   
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Try Googling 'Van Gogh death aftermath' or something and see what comes up.
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Holland is the pressure point for Islamic integration at the moment. However, it's not all one sided but it is not going well in Holland at the moment.
   
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Isn't Holland (or Amsterdam) supposed to be the Red Light District captial of the universe?

I imagine ANY religious integration would be difficult in such a place.
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